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‘Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner’ – so goes the Orthodox ‘Jesus Prayer’, which I, like many Orthodox, pray using a prayer-rope. It is shorter than the Rosary, but it serves a not dissimilar purpose – it quietens the mind and helps one meditate on God. I prayed it a lot on Monday evening, and one of the Sisters, interested in what I was doing, asked me why it was I prayed it as well as the Rosary – was the ‘Jesus prayer’ not ‘foreign’ to our tradition in the West?
I had to say that I’d no idea. Chalcedon introduced me to it many years ago, and it has long been part of my practice. During my illness, when I was too weak to pray the Rosary, I used to hold on to my prayer-rope and just chant the prayer. It seemed very appropriate to say it to mark the start of the ‘Year of Mercy’ proclaimed by Pope Francis.
As I am not a Roman Catholic, I don’t propose to enter into the whys and wherefores of Pope Francis. From outside the Church of Rome it seems to me that he’s a holy man who loves God and who wants us to talk more about love than about sin. I understand why some will be made uneasy by all of this – it isn’t, after all, as though our society exactly majors on ‘sin’, and I can share an unease about where the balance lies. That said, is there really a balance with God? As I understand what Geoffrey has been saying to us in his posts on Monday and yesterday, it is that God’s Mercy is quite unbalanced. In this he reflects something written by my beloved St Isaac the Syrian, which is quoted here by one of my all-time favourite bloggers, Fr Aidan Kimel
“Mercy is opposed to justice” …
Mercy and justice in one soul is like a man who worships God and the idols in one house. Mercy is opposed to justice. Justice is the equality of the even scale, for it gives to each as he deserves; and when it makes recompense, it does not incline to one side or show respect of persons. Mercy, on the other hand, is a sorrow and pity stirred up by goodness, and it compassionately inclines a man in the direction of all; it does not requite a man who is deserving of evil, and to him who is deserving of good it gives a double portion. If, therefore, it is evident that mercy belongs to the portion of righteousness, then justice belongs to the portion of wickedness. As grass and fire cannot co-exist in one place, so justice and mercy cannot abide in one soul. As a grain of sand cannot counterbalance a great quantity of gold, so in comparison God’s use of justice cannot counterbalance His mercy. (Ascetical Homilies I.51. p. 379)
Do read the whole of Fr Aidan’s post, which seems to me to be suffused with the love of God. He quotes what is probably the most provocative statement in the whole of the Patristic canon: “Do not call God just, for His justice is not manifest in the things concerning you” Hyperbole? Read what Fr Aidan writes and make your own mind up.
Justice would be for me to be condemned. I think even though I try to be good and to do as God tells me, I am not good all the time and I fail, not only in the things I do, but in those I fail to do. But God tells me I am saved because of the Resurrected Word Incarnate, who has taken away my sins – and my sin. I think I draw a distinction, but perhaps err? Any way, I thought I would share these thoughts with you for the ‘Year of Mercy’.
NEO said:
Quite. Geoffrey put me in mind as well of Fr. Aidan’s post, and St Isaac’s writing. I’ve said before that perhaps we get justice from God, unless we beg for mercy. But beyond that, perhaps justice is something we try for with men because mercy over enables original sin, and cause harmful injustice, while that wouldn’t apply to God.
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JessicaHof said:
Beloved Isaac is right – God’s mercy is beyond anything we can conceive 🙂 xx
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NEO said:
Indeed it is! 🙂 xx
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newenglandsun said:
doesn’t god want me to burn in hell?
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chalcedon451 said:
No. He does not make anyone with that intention 🙂
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newenglandsun said:
pray for me…i have been struggling with faith a lot recently.
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chalcedon451 said:
I shall, and I ask others here to join me.
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JessicaHof said:
I shall join you 🙂 xx
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newenglandsun said:
i fear god may have abandoned me.
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chalcedon451 said:
That is the depression speaking. You asked about Jessica. At the moment she has extremely limited access to the Internet, so if she does not reply, that is likely the reason.
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newenglandsun said:
i miss her regular e-mails checking up on me.
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chalcedon451 said:
She has very limited access, and until recently none at all, so we all miss her.
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newenglandsun said:
i do wish she would at least try and write me an e-mail whenever she did have internet access.
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chalcedon451 said:
She is off emails for now, and has been for the year. She is still not fully recovered.
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Jock McSporran said:
newenglandsun: My minister in Edinburgh did a series on Spiritual Depression (Morning sermons, September 1987 – February 1988) which you’ll find on this link:
http://www.thetron.org/resources/the-james-philip-archives/james-philip-archive/
Click on 87-88 Spiritual Depression and click on ‘sermon’ to hear the sermon.
Much of it will be irrelevant to you, but he has some good stuff that you might find useful. His book ‘Up Against It’ (which I read) might have been useful for you, but I don’t know how to get hold of it.
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newenglandsun said:
i don’t have spiritual depression. i have a mental depression.
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famphillipsfrancis said:
Thank you Jessica. I think it is we humans who get the ‘balance’ wrong – either veering towards ‘mercy’ or towards ‘justice’. God is perfect balance (among other attributes) so he is perfect Mercy as well as perfect Justice; they are both part of divine Love. ‘Justice’ is what we receive when we are too soft on ourselves, making excuses for sin; ‘Mercy’ is what we get when we are too hard on ourselves, fearing for the consequences of our constant weaknesses.
The important thing for Christians is always ‘conversion’: when we encounter the Love of God it is meant to change us. Love transforms. Mercy makes no sense if someone doesn’t change. The Prodigal Son wasn’t dragged from the pig pen by his divine Father; he turned back, in sorrow, and found the Father waiting for him – as he always waits for us.
It is – a horrible thought – possible to harden one’s heart against the love of God; would we expect His mercy in that case?
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JessicaHof said:
Lovely to hear from you Francis xx.
Yes, that last one is the hardest of all, but I fear that hell, if it is full, if full of people who did that. I hope that most repented, and pray for all souls to be led to heaven.
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Dave Smith said:
Interesting points Jessica though it seems a topic far too complicated to discuss on a thread in a blog. For instance; understanding the mercy shown to the Chosen People and the justice inflicted on non-Jews in the Old Testament seems to create an argument that either the God of the OT is not the God of the NT or that there is more here than meets the eye. That both justice and mercy reside in the very nature of God is one that seems to have been held in Christianty from the beginning.
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Dave Smith said:
BTW, the simplest thing I have seen on this is the following:
Sin against an infinite being (God) requires, by justice, an infinite act of reparation which is impossible for man. God thereby, by His Mercy takes on the reparation that we owed God and by His Justice required no less a Perfect, Infinite Sacrifice for reparation; Himself. In this way both Infinite Mercy and Infinite Justice are at play.
At least in the De Fide teachings for Roman Catholics we are bound to acknowledge that God possesses both Infinite Mercy and Infinite Justice . . . so I guess the argument is over for us but others still ponder these Mysteries as they are quite mysterious as is the nature of a Divine Mystery. 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
It is a very hard one my dear friend. As you can see from my conclusion, it is, as they say ‘too high’ for me 🙂 xx
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Dave Smith said:
Me too dear friend . . . and so I remain faithful to my vow to hold all that the Church teaches and leave it there. So glad you are here again to challenge our minds. 🙂 xx
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JessicaHof said:
I’ve had a whole lot of time to ponder things – as well as to be very grateful that I can 🙂 xx
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Dave Smith said:
Yes, that is also what old age does to me as well. 🙂 xx
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newenglandsun said:
“[the Jesus prayer] is shorter than the Rosary,”
I’m going to disagree with this. Both are spiritual disciplines meaning that the best way to go about them is not to “try and get them done” but to constantly meditate on them. As such, the Jesus prayer is about as long as the rosary is. One calls out “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me a sinner”. I came across a Catholic meme on pinterest in one of my feeds there that caught my attention as it read “pray smarter, not harder”. I fear we think that God won’t hear us if we don’t pray hard enough and “smart” here is not talking about “intellectually smart” it is talking about using wisdom in prayer. Why is one praying? One must pray the Jesus prayer slowly reflecting on the mercy. Additionally, one emphasizes certain parts of the Jesus prayer based on circumstance–“LORD Jesus, have mercy on me a sinner” (take control of my life as lord), “Lord JESUS, have mercy on me a sinner” (call upon the name of Jesus for spiritual healing and cleansing), “Lord Jesus, HAVE mercy on me a sinner” (I am doomed and a miserable wretch, my lord, I beg you to have mercy on me), “Lord Jesus, have MERCY on me a sinner” (save me from your wrath and grant mercy instead!), “Lord Jesus, have mercy ON ME a sinner” (I have offended you greatly, please pardon me), “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me A SINNER” (my offenses reach the Heavens, lord, I am a wretch!). Etc.
Now, one of the reasons the rosary was instituted as a prayer in the middle ages was because it helped the farmers to be able to at that time recite 150 prayers. They were supposed to go through all three mysteries on the same day reflecting on all of them as reciting the 150 Psalms often got into the way of their farming. By the time they recited all the three mysteries (a fourth was added recently with Pope John Paul II), they had prayed 150 Hail Mary’s thus granting them 150 prayers the equivalent of reciting the 150 Psalms. Regardless, all of these things mentioned are prayer and the saint tells us to “pray without ceasing” (1 Thess. 5:17–NRSVCE). As such, no prayer is shorter or longer than the other and no prayer can or should become a substitute for another.
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Reclaiming the Sacred said:
Thank you for the thoughts Jessica. 🙂 I guess I am a little confused, because St. Therese of Lisieux said, if I remember right, that she loved both God’s justice and His mercy. She felt that He was both with her, and she loved Him for it.
Now, I could be wrong, but if I recall right, she said that it is just of God to be merciful, and therefore she feared nothing from His justice because she knew that in His justice He would be merciful. In His justice He realizes how weak we are, and so he is justly merciful? I guess it is all a little complex, and please – no one take me on this blindly, for she was not saying that we can just do what we want and be ok. Far from it.
But I am just perplexed as to which saint is right. I am sure they both have truth to them, depending on how one looks at it.
I like how she saw it though because it shows God in such a beautiful light from every angle. In Him, everything is love, so even His justice must be a loving justice that makes as many allowances as it can – unless we turn away ourselves through stubborn sin. God forgive us all.
Just some thoughts. 🙂 I hope that you are doing well.
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JessicaHof said:
I have to say it is too big a puzzle for me, and I am glad better minds find it so too 🙂 I just rely on God’s mercy, which as you suggest, has to be the same as his justice. My bet is that it because we use two words which means different things to us we have a problem 🙂 xx
Yes, I am doing fine, now out from medical supervision, just a half year;y check up to make sure nothing nasty has returned. Hope you are well 🙂 xx
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Reclaiming the Sacred said:
Yes, it is a puzzle to us, isn’t it? It is always good to hear that you are doing well! I think a lot of troubles come from our era, although many people might laugh at me. I stopped using cell phones, for example. Just 30 seconds on a cell phone messes something up in your brain for 8 hours. Computers too – I try to stay as far back as I can, and keep everything wired and not wireless. Wifi is terrible too – I will not even have it in my home – and those huge TVs….Kindles and iPads…I don’t know everything, but I think one cannot be too careful when it comes to those things. I sometimes sit across the room when I listen to a podcast or watch a movie, with the screen on one side and me as far across on the other side as I can get! Stay safe out there. 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
I hadn’t thought of that. I don’t use a cell phone and never have – hate them! But I never thought about wifi – scary stuff – I’ll try to stay safe – you to0 xx 🙂
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Reclaiming the Sacred said:
You are smart! They are terribly annoying little things, aren’t they? Even dangerous signals aside, who wants to be at everyones beck and call – and text – 24/7? I am glad you are trying to stay safe, I will too. 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
Good to hear it – all this electrikery can’t be good for us 🙂 xxx
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Reclaiming the Sacred said:
LOL! I like that – I jut may borrow it, if you do not mind! 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
Do – it’s one of my favourites – goodness knows where I picked it up 🙂 xx
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Reclaiming the Sacred said:
🙂 Thank you! Wherever you got it, its a keeper!
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Mark Armitage said:
I came across this comment from Eric Jobe at Heterodoxy and Orthodoxy.
http://blogs.ancientfaith.com/orthodoxyandheterodoxy/2014/02/24/the-death-of-jesus-as-sacrifice-an-orthodox-reading-of-isaiah-53-and-romans-325/#comment-2957
What he says about divine wrath can, I think, be said (mutatis mutandis) of divine justice:
‘When I or anyone speaks of the “wrath of God” what must be understood is a particular manifestation of the uncreated energies of God, and as such there is no ontological difference in it from what we call “grace” or the “love of God,” for all of the energies of God are united towards accomplishing the will of God, which is the salvation and redemption of all creation. Yet his works are diverse in the context of wisdom – “How manifold are Thy works, O Lord / In wisdom hast Thou made them all” – wisdom that adapts the energies of God to specific situations and people. So, when we speak of “wrath” we are speaking of the energies of God directed toward sin, which is at once expiating, cleansing, and corrective.’
Divine justice, then, isn’t primarily a matter of rewarding and punishing human behaviour. Rather, it’s a matter of putting right a creation that has gone badly wrong, and is ordered towards “the salvation and redemption of all creation.”
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Dave Smith said:
Our CCC which quotes St. Thomas says something rather similar:
“You are merciful to all, for you can do all things”108
270 God is the Father Almighty, whose fatherhood and power shed light on one another: God reveals his fatherly omnipotence by the way he takes care of our needs; by the filial adoption that he gives us (“I will be a father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty”):109 finally by his infinite mercy, for he displays his power at its height by freely forgiving sins.
271 God’s almighty power is in no way arbitrary: “In God, power, essence, will, intellect, wisdom, and justice are all identical. Nothing therefore can be in God’s power which could not be in his just will or his wise intellect.”110
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JessicaHof said:
Thanks you Mark – and lovely that you are still here. That was very helpful 🙂 xx
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