Ottawa police, Interpol operatives, journalists in Rome and members of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, European Parliament and Jesuit Order, plus investigators for the International Common Law Court in Brussels have contributed to this article.
Two children were raped and killed as part of Pope Francis’Feb.22 <ahref=”http: title=”Cardinal inauguration of Quebec Archbishop Gerald Lacroix” target=”_blank” http://www.international.gc.ca=”” media=”” aff=”” newscommuniques=”” 2014=”” 02=”” 21a.aspx?lang=’eng”‘>Cardinal inauguration of Quebec Archbishop Gerald Lacroix according to a report filed yesterday at the International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels. Eyewitnesses claimed Cardinal Lacroix, Catholic Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Pachon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s senior cabinet minister Denis Lebel participated in the rape and human sacrifice of a five or six year-old boy and a small girl as explained in this video.
The killings were said to take place after midnight in the basement chambers of Jesuit Headquarters next to the Church San Lorenzo Piscibus in Rome. The Italian mafia Ndrangheta supplied children for these Ninth Cirsxcle Satanic Child Sacrifices through an office at the Vatican according to documents filed at the ICLCJ Court.
“We received a report that the children were murdered in the Catholic Jesuit headquarters” stated Kevin Annett of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State which assisted prosecution for the ICLCJ Court.” One source said a boy was sacrificed around midnight in the presence of Cardinal Lacroix and Denis Lebel. Evidently later that evening ‘the top guy’ killed a small girl. By that we assume he meant Jesuit Superior Adolfo Pachon.”`
The INTERPOL arrests and Canadian and Italy child sacrifices received little or no media attention in Canada or the US, but an ITCCS release stated, “The government’s talk of new police powers and the media hysteria that followed Cirillo’s shooting were an obvious distraction from this news of Lebel and Lacroix participating in child sacrifices that could easily topple the Harper government. Denis Lebel is crucial right now in Harper’s upcoming election hopes to win Quebec for his party.”
Influence of the Vatican and Canadian government-directed Ndrangheta appeared to play into not only the Canadian and Italian Ninth Circle child sacrifices, but the recent deaths of two Canadian policemen. “Our Unit Commander in Brussels believes that the head of Ottawa’s Human Trafficking Division Kal Ghadban was killed due to his willingness to investigate Ninth Circle rituals in Canada. On Monday, Oct. 20 ITCCS Directors received evidence of the Feb. child sacrifices in Rome involving Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s senior cabinet minister Denis Lebel and Quebec Archbishop-now-Cardinal Gerald Lacroix. The staged killing of policeman Nathan Cirillo occurred two days later.
“Ultimately this is all about covering for the big money, which means the Italian criminal syndicate Ndrangheta that provides children for Ninth Circle rituals” stated Annett. “We suspect a Ndrangheta member killed Ottawa police inspector Kal Ghadban on September 28 after he’d helped stop the Montreal child sacrifices in August. Apparently, Ghadban knew of Denis Lebel’s and Gerald Lacroix’s involvement in the Ninth Circle ritual and he planned to bring charges against both men. To me the death of Ghabdan confirms that federal politicians in Canada are linked to the Catholic Ninth Circle Satanic Child Sacrifice Cult and couldn’t have an honest cop tied to ITCCS working to expose their crimes.”
This sounds crazy, and it is, but don’t put anything past these power hungry people. they get away with it because people don’t believe it. If there are buyers, there are sellers. The CC has in its grips many children, and they supply them at big costs. Just for the sake of killing them and ritual sacrifice.Englandss very own Jimmy Saville wil tell you. He sold kids the govt officals and other very rich people. This is now public knowledge.
Steve Brown said:
C, yes this comment is directed to C, not bozoboy. Yesterday you were apologizing for the actions of the “village idiot,” today it seems that you are letting him hang himself. Let me explain.
A quick Google search for Quebec Archbishop Gérald Cyprien Lacroix or Denis Lebel show this article on the second page. There are no other articles that even mention the article posted by Bozoboy. It is also so interesting that being the people that have been convicted (see here: http://itccs.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/KevDocs-006.jpg by the International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels.
This is a witch hunt by people and websites that the whole world neither approves of or thinks news worthy. And this is after Bozoboy said, “I need to research first because I don’t want to repeat the same stuff over again.” And he has the gall to accuse others of being “copy and paste wonders!”
Come on C, can’t you see.
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Bosco the Great said:
What cant C see?
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Bosco the Great said:
A number of criminals on the link you provided have already been exposed. The big ones are the hardest to bring down.
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chalcedon451 said:
You do know, don’t you, that that link is not to any court recognised by any state? It is as though you and your chess buddies called yourself a court and found people guilty without any due process?
I am well aware that you seem to have no idea about how to read evidence, but even with that, I am shocked at the shoddiness of this. If you cannot see how silly this makes you look, everyone else can.
You really ought to be capable, at your age, of being able to tell rubbish from utter rubbish. Of course, if you ever looked at sites with real news, you might learn how to distinguish truth from fiction.
This is a sad posting Bosco – I am sorry for you.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Cheeseburgers anyone?
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ginnyfree said:
Not for breakfast. I haven’t had cold beer and pizza for breakfast since my college days…………….
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Servus Fidelis said:
You’ve lost your youthful exuberance for life then. 🙂
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ginnyfree said:
My youthful what? I was simply a rowdie. We had fun that involved the beach, the beer and the boys. The three B’s we called them. If the boys brought the beer, we’d meet them on the beach! Simple plan isn’t it? Worked for me and my gal pals. Oh well. I wasn’t Catholic then. If I was, I wouldn’t have done most of it. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Servus Fidelis said:
When I was in college it was girls, drugs and rock and roll . . . we may have been at a beach but we can’t remember.
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Steve Brown said:
Yes! Bring Fred, he needs to clear up a few things.
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Servus Fidelis said:
What? And put him at risk for heat stroke?
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chalcedon451 said:
As I commented elsewhere here, Bosco posted off his own bat, as he’s entitled to do. This is an example of what is wrong with his whole approach, and of what is wrong with others who take the same line. This is not ‘research’. It is a cut and paste job from another site with no attempt made to corroborate any of it. What is does decisively is to discredit its author. I am sorry if it upsets others, but the right response is to show how bad this really is.
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NEO said:
Concur, sadly but completely.
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chalcedon451 said:
The sad thing is that it reads like something from the National Enquirer – but worse.
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NEO said:
Much worse, in fact. They usually get within hailing distance of the truth, at least.
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chalcedon451 said:
It really is shockingly poor stuff. That he thinks that is a link to a court of law gives rise to real doubts about him.
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NEO said:
Like so many, he’ll accept most anything if it fits the narrative he wants, I reckon.
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ginnyfree said:
Now ya dunnit Bosco. Will you please revert so we don’t have to put up with anti-Catholic diatrivial diatribes? You’re only one good Confession away from a state of grace. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Bosco the Great said:
I want to thank good brothers Neo and Chalcedon for encouraging me to write my own post instead of going off topic and ruining other peoples posts.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Thanks for taking Jess’s site down to the level of the National Enquirer, Bozo. You seem addicted to yellow journalism. A proud moment for All Around the Watchtower. Nicely done.
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Steve Brown said:
No, no, no! This was C’s responsibility for allowing this trash to continue to be published.
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Servus Fidelis said:
If I were to make a guess, C was working on his book and Bozo published on his own without approval. But I may be wrong.
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Steve Brown said:
Well, C, what was it?
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NEO said:
And at least it gets it off legitimate posts, so they can have a proper discussion, and the village idiot. can be seen for what he is.
And refuted, which has already happened here.
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chalcedon451 said:
The first I knew was when it appeared. Bosco is right, he was told to produce some evidence rather than derail other threads. It is a shame he failed to distinguish between fantasy and actual evidence.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Seems odd that someone who touts his ability to reason and his formidable logic that is neither.
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NEO said:
One shouldn’t slander the National Enquirer that way.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Sorry. It does almost make the yellow journals look legit at that.
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NEO said:
Just asl johnny Edwards! 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
I don’t get it, NEO. The only Johnny Edwards I remember was the catcher for the Cincinnati Reds before Johnny Bench took over. 😕
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NEO said:
No that idiot trial lawyer that thought he should be president even if he couldn’t keep his pants zipped until his wife died. Or did I get the name wrong?
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Servus Fidelis said:
OHH. He was known as John Edwards not Johnny. Such confusion. Ha. Indeed.
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ginnyfree said:
Okay Bosco. Blame them. You’re nuts. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Nicholas said:
I think the problem here is that the Vatican’s Chief Exorcist, Fr. Gabriele Amorth, is on record as saying he believes the powers of darkness are at work in the Vatican/RCC, which then means that any old theory will suddenly find “justification” because he says evil is at work.
But how much is made up, and how much is subtle? Anny large organisation is bound to have a few rotten apples.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Fr. Amorth was speaking of Bozoboy; and he was right. 🙂
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Nicholas said:
🙂 I think the problem with people who work in the field of exorcism is the temptation to see the Devil and his servants in everything, when a good deal of life is just human sin and the Curse. That’s not to say we don’t need exorcists – we most certainly do.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Don’t sell Fr. Amorth short, Nicholas. If there is anyone who knows Satan when he sees him it is Fr Amorth. You should read more about him and from him . . . he is quite aware of psychology and false possessions etc. and fully recognizes the difference. I’ll take his word for it any day.
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Nicholas said:
Fair enough. It is a very sensitive area – especially for parents who have children with difficulties in Catholic schools.
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Servus Fidelis said:
It is. Usually we find overactive imaginations at work in the laity not in the exorcists. To become an exorcist rigorous training is required and they are often operating in an air of disbelief by unbelieving bishops who have lost their belief in the supernatural and the diabolic.
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Nicholas said:
Yes, bishops don’t really seem to have a good press these days – especially since one of the bishops of Durham denied the Resurrection. He should have been defrocked.
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Servus Fidelis said:
These are dreadful days we live in.
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Nicholas said:
Yes, for everyone. But then, I have a depressive outlook…I have to consciously write upbeat pieces on here in response to negativity. I find happiness/contentment a difficult virtue to practice, and a difficult grace to pray for.
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Servus Fidelis said:
I’m a realist, or at least that is what I think I am. I see the evil and accept it as being everywhere but at the same time know that in such times as these it makes the smallest things we do in combatting this evil quite meritorious. In the face of evil, meritorious service to God is actually easier. Think like a saint . . . holiness comes in many very small steps.
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Nicholas said:
That’s why one of my favourite verses is the one about giving a cup of water to someone. Seemingly a small act, but when the motive is right, valued by God.
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Servus Fidelis said:
It is. You might like the spirituality of Therese Lisieux Nicholas. She simply offered the smallest things to God and claimed she had nothing else to offer. She is a great inspiration for all of us.
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ginnyfree said:
Anyone can do small things with great love. Pampers need changing……..the neighbor’s yard needs work………….the smile at the toll booth instead of a grumble………if you have a heart to spread love, you will wherever you go. You may be the only Bible someone ever reads. Look like a Christian. Talk like a Christian and love like a Christian. God bless. Ginnyfree
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ginnyfree said:
Yeah and the sad truth is if Bosco ever does decide to give up his ways and revert, the devil will probably attack and try and stop him. He’s opened a few doors in his life that may not shut when he enters the Confessional. He will probably need extra help. Oh well. They find out too late what they’ve done. Spiritual warfare is real. But “Be not afraid!” God bless. Ginnyfree.
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ginnyfree said:
Don’t go about looking for devils under every rock and behind every nasty thing. Keep this in mind for perspective: Where the Body is, there the vultures gather.
No matter who you are, where you are and whatever you are about in life, if you are a follow of Jesus Christ you will have conflict with three things: the world, the flesh and the devil. So, pray the Rosary and utilize the Sacraments and develop a spiritual life and regular devotion and all three will be well checked. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Bosco the Great said:
I knew those in here wouldn’t take this serious. I brought this up because I was taken to task by good brother Neo.Anyway, I have confirmation on this story. Ive know of this many years already. For one, anyone can google Boystown and see the news stories of human trafficking. Its the same old story…..people just don’t want to believe it. The Bohemian Groves…high ranking industrialists and bankers and politicians, ex presidents all go there for Satanic rituals. Its there, just search it. But you don’t want to know. You want your little figurines of your favorite roman state run religions saints and your velveta and your air fresheners and your TV commercials. You don’t want to know what happens to little kids at the hands of these monsters. It keeps you from waking up screaming in the middle of the nite.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Why no rating on this site? http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2015145
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Bosco the Great said:
Im not a member of FIDE.
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Bosco the Great said:
costs too much to play FIDE events.
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Steve Brown said:
Looks like a rating of 1889 to me. Where is the 2000? And you fail to mention it was over 15 years ago. bozoboy, you fail to mention lots.
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Bosco the Great said:
If you can, go back to 1988. I was over 2000. It shrinks if you abuse it. Play while in bad form, but the record stand for certain events to keep big rating people from playing in lower sections.
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Steve Brown said:
So you lied to a bunch of people trying to be your friends.
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bozoboy87 said:
I don’t need to lie to a hard hat like you. Why don’t you busy yourself and find my attendance to Buckley private school where Mike jacksons kids go now. I went there myself. It is the most exclusive school in the world. You jackasses cant stand that I am educated while you are a bunch of dumbasses.
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Bosco the Great said:
Theres like 3 waynes which has cause some mix uos and ive never been in FIDE. That’s the international federation. There 18 people with my name who have vons cards.
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Bosco the Great said:
PS, 18 people in California who have my name have vons cards.
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Bosco the Great said:
How do you find this stuff?
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Servus Fidelis said:
I’m good at research Bosco, something you aren’t too good at. So I take it that this a picture of you in the rear then.
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Bosco the Great said:
Imopssible, I don’t subscribe to FIDE and never have.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Well, this definitely you. http://www.chess.com/members/view/bozo87
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Servus Fidelis said:
Wayne Kimbe Griffin is Bozoboy – am I correct? If so, why the a.k.a. Wayne Brown? Something to hide?
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ginnyfree said:
Oh that’s neat. Is it really Bosco? So much for his anonymity. Yikes. Promise me SF, if you figure out who I am, never reveal it haphazardly to anyone, especially here. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Servus Fidelis said:
I wouldn’t do that to you. It is only done to those who hide behind the faces of clowns and blaspheme the name of great saints.
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theophiletos said:
De-anonymizing someone online is a form of assault and should be illegal. While I suspect Bosco is in little physical danger, “doxing” someone like this can enable physical violence by any idiot sufficiently angered by what the victim has posted. Google “gamergate”. I’m not defending Bosco, but the response to sin should not be to sin oneself.
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theophiletos said:
To put my previous comment in context, my wife had a stalker in college who even spent a small amount of time in jail for his misdeeds, but we’ve had no word that he’s given up his ways. So for someone to de-anonymize my wife could be tantamount to a credible death threat.
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Servus Fidelis said:
First of all his name has been used here and known to me from shortly after I came to this blog. It is no secret to those who have been here from the beginning. I’m only asking him to verify that the Chess Master status he claims is one of about three that I found by simply typing his name. You have a funny sense of sin. I have not sworn to keep his name a secret . . . besides, it was no secret except to those who have either recently arrived or did not type bozoboy87 into Google to see if he was a troll . . . which is how his name was found by us in the first place. If I or anyone else stalks someone, your comment is legitimate. For sorting out who this guy who has been banned almost everywhere he goes was almost necessary. Once again, if you had read one of his recent diatribes you would have noticed that his gravatar went from Bosco to Bozoboy to Wayne Griffin in the same thread. And that came from him. Sorry about your wife but public knowledge is public knowledge. If you don’t want people to know who you are, stay off the internet or be careful of how you log into a blog . . . we all leave a trail and the US government and companies like Google, Yahoo, Youtube throw away nothing . . . there is the sin and crime and the infringement on liberty. I would be far more worried about unknown people knowing my identity than those who show you straight up that they know who you are and are holding you accountable for what you say. So how did this assault poor Bosco? I would have been far more worried about him, had we not found out his name (and in the beginning we and especially Jess were worried about him) . . . for it legitimized him as a person and defanged a would be troll. He knows we know who he is and can verify such things as his chess rating. So we called him on it? No hacking was done, no gimmicks, just plain old Googling. Take it up with them.
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chalcedon451 said:
Yes, I think we all take Theo’s point here, but as you say, Bosco’s long trail through the internet, and here, has left many traces of who he really is. If he’d like me to reanonymise him, I’m happy t do do.
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theophiletos said:
It appears from WordPress search results that Bosco’s name occurs in this comment thread and in the discussion whether to ban him a few weeks back, in a post by C451 quoting a message from SF. Bosco himself does not appear to have used it.
“Public knowledge is public knowledge” is the plea that many stalkers use. All public knowledge is potential; someone has to be willing to sort through the Google results or go down to a county courthouse, and they may not know enough to confirm a link. Linking separate data and re-posting them in a particular context makes it actual, and that’s very different, and much more dangerous to certain people.
While there is a kind of threat from unknown strangers, most people who would wish to cause bodily harm are known; they are different kinds of threats.
“Take it up with them” is a denial of responsibility. As I said in my comment, I doubt Bosco will be harmed by this removal of anonymity, but it is a dangerous precedent for those of us with more to lose by such a stunt. You remember the trouble C451 was in last year, which privatized AATW? My situation is less stable, and I need to consider carefully what is worth that risk. I had valued AATW as a useful venue of discussing real issues, but if its contributors do not respect anonymity and do not apologize for blowing someone’s anonymity against their wishes, then it may not be the place for me.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Once again I did not blow his anonymity, I was a recipient of it having been blown and know that this is no secret. I spoke of this in an email to C this morning. He said that his cover was blown back in the days of the Damien Thompson blog.
Further if Jess was worried about this guy . . . would you try to see what you could find out about him through a simple search so that she could make a decision as to whether to have him blocked or not? Neo, myself and David all did what we could and advise as well as we could at the time. We did: uncovered some Youtube videos that Youtube has now taken down (thankfully).
So it is out of bounds to Google a person in your view and then use the results to do some further Googling? Are you serious?
Revealing what you find to the post is the ethical question where you have some credibility as to ethics had it not been for the fact that he was already known by most of us. Sorry you did not know that but I am not going to pretend like I don’t know his name, when I do; and by such knowledge its easy to look into certain claims that Bozo makes.
As C said this is a storm in a teacup.
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ginnyfree said:
Hello SF. Like they say, “It is impossible to un-ring a bell.” God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Servus Fidelis said:
I have no intention to, Ginny.
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bozoboy87 said:
I would never do that to you. But that’s the difference between me and you. I have compassion and you are a wild eyed Pharisee who wants to ride a graven image all the way to hell.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Unlike you, nearly everyone knew your name and it matters not to me if my name is known by everyone on this blog. It it upset you, I’m sorry. But you know that your name has been used by a number of people who were here for years, me being one of them. My apologies, if that helps.
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Servus Fidelis said:
And sorry Theo, to your last ethical accusation thrown at me: I, David Smith, do take responsibility for anything I say here and if it is unacceptable you may remove me or request that C remove me for whatever reason you want. I expect the same from everybody else. When we live in a virtual world where everyone is sporting a ski mask and afraid of their own shadows it is time to perhaps show the grit that Jess had and that Ann Barnhardt shows on her controversial blog. That is the world I was born in, long before this internet even existed. We knew each other by name, took responsibility for what we said or did; public or private. Trust was given to men and women of good character and none was given to those who broke that trust. You say I broke Bosco’s trust and I say that he never denied or asked anyone to avoid using his name and it was already known. If I’m a liar then call me one. Otherwise you might have a point. Now, in regards to responsibility, how can I hold a clown without a name responsible for anything he says or does? He is nothing more than a virtual miasma that appears on my screen on an almost daily basis. Where is the human face? Perhaps it is just a generational difference as you did not live in a time when a community was actually that: a bunch of folks who really sat down with one another, knew their names, and were held accountable for themselves rather than virtual friends . . . whatever that can possibly mean. You either liked them or not, trusted them or not. Life was simple. You have now made this simple little thing turn into the inquisition by the Obama Dept. of Internet Ethics and Regulations. Sorry, but I haven’t read them and do not intend to. I will go by my gut just as i did when I was living in the real world. It served me fine most of my life. In fact this conversation has me asking myself why I even bother with this other than using it to read. I thought that blogging might be a good way to reach more people than I can by speaking to friends and neighbors. And though the numbers may be smaller at least we won’t need to discuss issues with our voices disguised while wearing masks.
I think we have a generational gap here that I fail to grasp. I know your intentions are good and I know that there are reasons (usually about the PC police) that some people prefer or must use an alias. That should tell us something else about the way things are today. When did our right to speak without retribution get revoked?
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ginnyfree said:
Hello Servus. I’m going to throw a monkey wrench. (Like this surprises anyone who knows me by now) But in the near future, if the Supreme Court legalises SSM, one of the consequences will be legal protections for those persons who live those lives and this means we will have to be more “careful” of what we say to whom, because we can and probably will face legal troubles when we speak against this afterwards. That will be one of the possible side effects and since many of that ilk relish the idea of finally getting to silence us fundamentalist religious fanatics who tell the world that their lifestyle choice is abominable and heinous and depraved. They have been simmering for quite sometime and have been waiting to shut us up. Now they will have even more legal ability to make us pay for deploring their disgusting lifestyle choices. They don’t want to play nice. It will get worse for those of us who remind everyone that the city of Sodom is not a prosperous metropolis blessed with a solid economy and safe well-lighted streets and schools for the young that are the envy of the civilized world. I will need my anonymity in venues such as this to protect my freedom to speak my mind. It will be necessary even more so. All of the things I just safely said, will have to be weighed anew and carefully lest I incur the wrath of the Lavender Mafia. So, it will be necessary for those who open the doors for freedom of expression to guard those same doors to keep it safe for those of us who will be to many, defying the law. And if you want some history to help you get a perspective, read up on the Know Nothing Party and what is cost us way back when. Here is a little link: http://www.britannica.com/topic/Know-Nothing-party
Okie dokie. Ginnyfree is done. Over and out. Take it way Chief. God bless.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Except on the heels of all this Obama and his followers want the Govt. to control the internet. Yes, your free speech will not only be curtailed by they have your name and address and you are likely to incur jail time as well.
Let me see if Theo might be in favor of such actions: He starts by telling me that I am a criminal (not under the law yet) but according to his view how the laws should be structured.
He went on to disparage the veracity of my explanation: essentially calling me a liar.
From there he has impugned my ethics, my character and my lack of taking full responsibility.
Fine. I’m a big boy. I do have to temper my anger when I think of my parents lying in Arlington Cemetery who taught me about character, duty, honor, the value of our words and the necessity of acting forthright and not hiding from those who disagree. It is a slander to them that they are being told that their world is not applicable in this age and that they raised children who are unjust, unfair and lack responsibility for their actions.
Our freedoms are diminishing and we are only a few steps from being slaves of the mind controllers. Rehabilitation camps are right around the corner.
And speaking of the SSM, my post made in jest about being another race in a human body has already come true with the white lady who ran the NAACP who claims that she is black. Why isn’t she a hero as is Bruce Jenner. I guess she will be in time. It is all turning into a fantastical reality of nonsense.
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ginnyfree said:
You’re right SF. And the crazier it gets, the happier I am to be a follower of Jesus Christ. This afternoon while I was getting dinner ready, I was looking out my window and the thought occurred to me that right now, folks are truly hating me for no other reason then I won’t back down from defending the truth that homosexual behaviors are outrageously immoral and those who support them and their “marriages” shouldn’t present themselves for Communion. Fr. Dariusz Oko has an interesting article you may have already seen: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html He calls it homoheresy and it is. This subject got brought up by me in a little bible study group we have at my parish on Thursday mornings and I very quietly got an email from the guy who does the group requesting that I not discuss this anymore in the group because the Church teaching (which I happened to be the only one endorsing I noticed too late, remember the ringing bell? Well this is my ringing bell from the past two weeks.) has been mentioned and the Church will handle it. Okie dokie. Can’t talk about the up-coming Supreme Court decision in a Catholic place because it isn’t appropriate to talk about it. Right. His words said one thing, but the message was clear: we don’t talk about things like this here at all. I’ve been advised, we will only be talking about the up-coming readings for each Sunday’s Mass and will use an hour to go over them and what they might mean. That’s it. No more talk. I’m wondering if I can even mention it when the news breaks. It would probably be wise if I don’t because I’ve been officially warned and told to drop it. Yeah. Too real, too close to home. I know now what the Director of Faith Formation’s position regarding this issue actually is and I’m to keep silence in his classroom. Howzethatgrabbya? Homoheresy at it’s best. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Very typical these days and why I have been asked to quit teaching a few times: complaints from those who contracept, those who want me to tell them homosexual acts are OK and a host of other heretical teachings that I either have to nod and smile with and say nothing or else. So it always came down to the what else. I won’t compromise the teaching for the pastor and if he wants it compromised he can always tell me, thanks, but we don’t need you anymore . . . usually the way it goes.
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ginnyfree said:
Thanks for that Servus. I needed that. Nice to know there ARE others who not only have a problem with the mess at Mass, but who have also remained faithful in spite of the pressure to conform some from the “Church of Nice” place on the rest of us. Yeah, we DO have a heresy going on and it is frustrating to live with the level of denial that flourishes in parishes and among even those you’d expect to at least acknowledge that there is plenty that needs mending and soon. Most would rather live in a comfortable denial of this fact. I still don’t understand why most feel a need to even not use the word heresy. It has become a forbidden word in some Catholic circles. HUH? That’s like a doctor saying yeah, he’ll help you get well, but please dont’ mention any of your symptoms cause all that talk of illness brings him down and may not be attractive to some suffering patients who could care less about actually getting well and in fact only desire to put the doctor permanently out of business! Hello !!!??!? Sometimes I get angry about it and want to march into the Rectory and demand change, but that won’t do anything but get me in trouble, so live and let live, even heretics. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Aye, but I might state it differently in regards to the cause of the illness and the symptoms. It seems to me that we are no longer physicians of souls but sellers of snake oils to soothe symptoms rather than heal them. Sadly, to deal with the souls of men requires some rather bitter medicine at times and rather than a pain killer that simply lets the wounds fester but numbs us to the pains we are experiencing. It is a sad thing to think being nice is the same as radical transformation in Christ. But that is what has happened. Often we have put ourselves in the hands of charlatans.
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ginnyfree said:
Well, Bosco. If it is you. God bless. Chess is hard. I’ve tried playing a few really good folks in my days, but I’ll never get it that good. Be proud and have many good games. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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ginnyfree said:
Bosco, even if there are persons who have fallen that far into the pit while belonging to a religious Order or in the employ of the Church, the vast majority of those involved in human trafficking are simply plain ole criminals and rarely are found in any place of worship. I’d say probably 99%. So, the one or two the press makes note of are exceptions. Most Catholic charitable institutions that minister to children so most of what they do without incident and marvelously. A rotten apple in these cases doesn’t spoil the whole barrel.
And on a personal note, you who see women as “honey bunnies” worthy of lustful gazes and have admitted your own need for eye-candy in female form, are guilty of partaking in the softer side of the human trafficking epidemic. And if you are that open about it here, I can only imagine how far into the morass of evil you, yourself have fallen. Kinda tossed pot calling kettles black. Am I wrong?
You can however, give all of that up. Chalcedon and Servus would love to help you. So would some others. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Bosco the Great said:
Ive been working on looking at girls as hunny bunnys, because they might be married. I say to myself, “theres someone who god loves”. Lusting after another mans wife is something I don’t like doing. I say a prayer that Jesus sends someone to them. I say that also about homeless people I see.
That’s nice that you admit its happening…..human traffic. next, you can come to realize its not jusy one or two guys hiding in a shadow. Why do you think bishops don’t expose the priests under them? Because they do it too. And they aren’t hiding under my bed….they are walking in the sun and is legions of them, not just one or two. Its never ending.
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ginnyfree said:
Bosco, you missed my two points. You generalize all out the door every single priest, bishop, cardinal or Catholic because a few are really messed up examples of human beings. Why not write off the whole human race and try to become a trans-alien being? Then you could wash your hands of the whole dang mess of us! You’re generalities only rob you of the truth and not one person here at AATWT is fooled. Most here have respect if not reverence for all clergy, no matter the stripe. You on the other hand take some sort of sad pleasure in bashing the lot of ’em at once because they aren’t all up to your standards. Which brings me to point # two – your own use of the trafficking of others. If you were humble and repentant you would feel not even a slight inclination to throw stones as others who really are just another day’s news. Pray to the Jesus you love to have genuine love for the females you’ve hurt with your poor attitude and example, etc. Pray those women in your life you’ve hurt find healing. You partake of the fruits of soft pornography, if not the hard stuff and THAT IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING. Hang your head in shame man and go see a Priest about that confession you really need to make. Your poor soul will be washed cleaner than the day you were born, literally, in the Blood of the Lamb who was slain for you. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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bruvvereccles said:
Oh bruvver Bosco, you has been cutting and pasting from those website wehatecatholics.org, catholicsarecannibals.com, letsbitethecarpet.org, and makeupyourowndrivel.net.
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chalcedon451 said:
Bosco – when we suggested providing actual evidence, we were thinking of actual evidence. You have provided a story without any.
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TW said:
New reader (couple of weeks) of AATW here. I find the blood-libel conspiracy theory and climate change denialism so distracting that I’m quite tempted to stop looking for any baby that may be in there with all that bath water
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chalcedon451 said:
Welcome – I apologise for Bosco. On the Climate change, deniers gonna deny – we try not to censor opinions – they tend to find their level, so to say.
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ginnyfree said:
Hello TW. Welcome. Glad you’re here. My name is Ginnyfree and I’m one of the gals around here. Look forward to your shares. God bless. Ginnyree.
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bozoboy87 said:
Good brother Servus has shown what a malicious worm he is. iu wonder if he teaches his catholic idolaters to attack the messenger in stead of the message. He has to do something strong, because his religion is of Semiramis and Nimrod. he has to throw mud because his idolatrous religion has no justification.
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