Luke [chapter 9:28-36] relates the Transfiguration to the mission of Jesus as he moves towards death and glory. Jesus is praying, and the light shines on his face. We do not know that it is a prayer of agony and conflict like the prayer in Gethsemane, but we know that it is a prayer near to the radiance of God and the prayer of one who has chosen the way of death. Luke tells us that the two witnesses were conversing about the exodus which Jesus would accomplish in Jerusalem: not the death alone, but the passing through death to glory. the whole going forth of Jesus as well as the leading forth of the new people of God in the freedom of the new covenant. Luke tells us that after the resurrection Jesus spoke of the witness of Moses and of all the prophets to his suffering and glory.
It was not a glory which the disciples at the time could fathom. No doubt they would have welcomed a glory on the mountain far away from the conflicts which had happened and the conflicts which were going to happen as Jesus set his face towards Jerusalem. Yet when Jesus went up the mountain to be transfigured he did not leave these conflicts behind, but rather carried them up the mountain so they could be transfigured with him. It was the transfiguration of the whole Christ, from his first obedience in childhood right through to the final obedience of Gethsemane and Calvary.
The disciples could not grasp this at the time, but the writings of the Apostolic age were to show that the link between the suffering and the glory came to be understood as belonging to the heart of the Christian message.
[Michael Ramsey, Be Still and Know]
wow. verbal gyrations.
you have already admitted you dont believe the gospel. i guess thats why you subscribe to Catholicism. catholicism has nothing to do with the bible.
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Bosco, telling lies is not Christian. I did not say I did not believe in the Gospel. I said I did not believe in a literal reading of Genesis. If you are going to tell lies, make them better. We know who the Father of Lies is, why do you serve him here?
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Curious, the entirety of Genesis or specific parts, some of latter parts like Joseph, for example, do have corresponding historical themes. The Austrian archaeologist Bietak has done good work in the north of Egypt excavating Asiatic sites. The latter part of Genesis reads similar as a prologue into Exodus.
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And does this indicate more than one author of the book?
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a catholic priest uncle of a friend of mine said that im just repeating it. he said the CC and the bible are two different things. so the priest is lying.
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The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus. The Bible is its book. So, yes, two different things. Is there a point here?
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What puzzles me Bosco is this. Are you deliberately lying, in which case, why? No one here will be deceived, so that suggests that lying is a habit with you. Or are you rather dim and can’t read. If the latter, I suggest getting an education.
If the “saved” are all like you, all I can say is I would wish to be saved from such ignorant misrepresentation and malice. You really are a very poor example, indeed, you are the best argument I know against your own ideas.
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Chalcedon – it is (of course) your blog and you can do whatever you like with it, but if I were you I would ban Bosco.
I get the impression that he must have spent yesterday evening ingesting a substantial quantity of Johnny Walker Red Label Whisky. He woke up, saw that you had put up something on AATW and decided to vomit all over it.
Admittedly, the piece on the Transfiguration is not preaching out the gospel of repentance unto remission of sins in a blatant and explicit way; as I understand it, that is not what AATW is for.
Chalcedon is a serious and cultured fellow and when he puts up a piece in this character, we read the comments because we might naively expect other people of a similar disposition to have commented on it.
These Bosco comments seriously lower the tone and take the blog significantly down-market.
As for Bosco telling lies and deliberately misrepresenting your own position – well, as you know, I have `black-balled’ other contributors for this sort of approach.
Bosco has taken up far too much of your time and – frankly – brings out the worst in you. He isn’t typical of anything, so the argument for keeping him here – that he represents some wider trend – doesn’t really hold.
At the time I post this, nobody has (as yet) interacted with Michael Ramsey’s views on the Transfiguration; there are (so far) five posts – one by Bosco and four in response to the Bosco-vomit, none of them on topic.
Well, I suppose I don’t run a blog – and you therefore have much more idea of what makes a good blog than I do, but I know what I would do.
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I think, indeed I know, that you have a point. I am going to put him on moderation.
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Bosco, if you read Jock’s latest comment you will see why you are on moderation – to quote Jock “These Bosco comments seriously lower the tone and take the blog significantly down-market.” Enough is enough.
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A wise move, I think. I wrote yesterday on paying attention on the job, and how it saves lives and money. Here it saves souls, at least potentially, and is so even more important. Bosco never has, and indeed he distracts from the mission just as Jock has written.
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Yes, Jock’s points are correct, and there comes a point where a line has to be drawn.
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Indeed.
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but rather carried them up the mountain so they could be transfigured with him.
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Not sure what point you think you are making here, Bosco. I have allowed this comment, but will not allow your usual nonsense.
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i had to get off the computer in a hurry and couldnt finish my thought. i wasnt aware the disciples were transfigured.
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The analogy is with Moses and the way his face reflected his encounter with God.
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