Let me see if I get this …
You had a porn addiction, but was never really a true atheist and for some reason (emotional trauma perhaps?) returned to Jesus and was saved?
Is this about right?
ARKENATEN, combox atheist troll
I never thought the day would come when I would be quoting a troll from a combox for a blog post. But then again, I never thought the day would come when Democrats would impeach a president merely for being Republican. These are strange times, my friend.
I quote this godless fool in order to highlight a bit of foolishness I have experienced from the atheists since my conversion to Roman Catholicism in 2012. Prior to this, I had been an atheist officially since 1999. Unofficially, my unbelief began a few years prior after finding a friend of mine dead from suicide. Like me, my friend was a…
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No, you were not an atheist you merely turned you back on your god, as you Christians are wont to say, because pf the trauma you experienced regarding the suicide, and your comment below explains your position perfectly.
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Of course his comment explains his position perfectly. You would have to be insane to not wish for a God who offers an eternity of happiness and perfect bliss to annihilation and an eternity of nothingness, You really have to hate God and His gift to say that you do not wish that God was not true when God provides an upside or an eternal Good to the person and the absence of God provides an assured lack of any good or of any THING at all. I prefer something to nothing and if that something is my happiness and to be not only the witness of Beauty, Goodness, Love,Truth and Justice but to be part of it; adopted into His family as a Child of God. Its really a no-brainer for the sane man.
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This is a point of view certainly, but it also includes the proviso that refusal to believe means spending eternity being tortured in Hell.
Not really much of choice, I’d say.
Bit it says a lot about your god … or at least about your Church as the notion of Hell is a church construct.
So, no, he was never an atheist, merely lapsed a bit in the faith after the suicide episode.
I am still wondering where porn addiction comes into play?
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There is another choice, of course, and that is that you know that you will not serve (non serum) and therefore hate God. If God really doesn’t exist why would you be frightened by the concept of hell anyway?
For the Christian we know that it is not truly God that put us in hell anyway; it is our free will to put ourselves there. So God gives to us what we choose: an eternity with Him or an eternity without Him: which means no Beauty, no Love, no Justice, no Good etc. Your choice and you are free to make it.
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How can one hate something for which one has no belief in?
Do you hate Brahma?
I am not frightened by the concept of Hell.
I have no belief in such nonsense.
As I said it is a church construct.
On the other hand, believers are scared witless of the thought of Hell.
Furthermore, the character Jesus of Nazareth never taught the Christian doctrine of Hell, as he was a Jew.
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Hell is not a dished out indiscriminately. You either will it or you don’t. Purgatory is a mercy for those who have yet submitted their wills perfectly to God’s . . . not hell. They know they will never will that which God wills. The fallen angels are of that stripe.
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Again this is simply doctrinal nonsense, created by the Church.
Jesus was a Jew. The Christian ”Hell” does not feature in Judaism and thus Jesus never taught it.
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Your choice to think it nonsense or not. As they say; you’ll believe it once you’re there.
So the Gates of Hell will not prevail is not a statement by our Lord?
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Yes, it is my choice, but evidence is not on your side.
The Christian doctrine of Hell does not feature in Judaism and as Jesus was a Jew he did not teach ”Hell”.
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You have no evidence that God does not exist. Evidence is found through the will and you will not to accept the natural inclination to understand that something doesn’t come from nothing and that if you say that the universe itself is eternal then why not the Being Who is uncreated and always exists?
Bull. Hell has more citings in the Bible than does heaven by a long shot
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Never said I did. This is not the atheist position, which is there is no evidence that gods – tour god or any other – exists.
Indeed it does!
However, when you learn why this is then you will understand why it is false.
Again, Jesus was a Jew. There is no Christian Hell in Judaism.
Jesus did not teach it.
It is a Church construct.
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Yes Jesus was a Jew and He was the Messiah and he fulfilled the understanding of the OT in the NT. Early Christians were quite aware of what they believed (better than you you, I would think) and they all taught and believed in hell. St. Paul and other apostles make reference to it often.
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Yes, Saul/Paul did.
But Jesus never taught it, as he was a Jew.
Do you understand why?
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Christ did teach it. You think the Jewish apostles made it up? You think Christ said that the Church He founded would withstand the Gates of Hell for fun?
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No, he did NOT teach Christian Hell, and your insistence that he did merely demonstrates your ignorance.
He was a Jew. There is no Christian Hell in Judaism.
YOu really need to do a little study on the subject.
it is a shame that you are being schooled in this matter by an atheist for goodness sake.
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Where did you become such an expert on Christianity. Is that what atheists do? Do they study theology and think they understand the faith better than those who are OF the Faith?
I don’t believe in UFO’s but I don’t read every book about them and then argue with UFO believers. It sounds like you want to be a Christian but you simply to scared to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Him.
I suppose the harrowing of Hell is simply a misunderstanding and that Christ, because He was born Jewish, did not have the authority to correct misunderstandings among the Jews? His arguing with the rabbis in the Temple was simply a prideful gesture from an adolescent. If you read the NT correctly you will see that he corrected many misunderstandings of the Jews: how about divorce and adultery? You won’t allow Christ to be Who He was: God with all authority given to Him. He could correct the misunderstandings with authority and He did . . . about hell as well.
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I am not an expert, but yes, I study.
Again, you simply refuse to acknowledge that the Doctrine of Hell is a Church construct.
Jesus did not correct any ”misunderstanding of Hell” as he never taught it.
Once you take the time to research how the term/word Hell arrived in the bible then you will begin to understand why the concept as you understand it is nothing but a Church construct.
There is no idea of a Christian Hell in Judaism.
I’m sure you are capable of doing a quick Google search?
Take ten minutes and learn something.
I’ll go make a coffee and then we can discuss further if you like?
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Why study unless you want to believe?
Just a few from Matthew (a Jew):
Matthew 5:22 But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye scandalize thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee. For it is expedient for thee that one of thy members should perish, rather than that thy whole body be cast into hell.
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Matthew 5:30 And if thy right hand scandalize thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is expedient for thee that one of thy members should perish, rather than that thy whole body be cast into hell.
Matthew 10:28 And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 11:23 And thou Capharnaum, shalt thou be exalted up to heaven? thou shalt go down even unto hell. For if in Sodom had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in thee, perhaps it had remained unto this day.
Matthew 16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 18:9 And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee having one eye to enter into life, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Matthew 23:15 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves.
Matthew 23:33 You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell?
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I study for interest.
Yes,I am fully aware of the verses where the word hell is used.
Remember: Jesus was a Jew. Born a Jew, raised a Jew and died a Jew.
The Christian Hell does not feature in Judaism. Thus, Jesus did not teach it.
Are you beginning to understand this yet?
Now, do yourself a favour and go and research why it was used.
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Yes He was the Messiah of the Jews . . . not subject to the misunderstandings of any teaching they may have had erroneously. The Pharisees and the Sadducees had differing opinions . . . they couldn’t both be right could they?
Here’s one that seems to be crying out to you,
Ecclesiastes 9:10
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell, whither thou art hastening.
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It is obvious you have no intention of researching this; so be it. Remain ignorant.
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You seem to think you are an expert on Sheol, Gehenna, Hades and the Hellenistic concept of Hell.
By at least the late rabbinical period,[Gehenna] Gehinnom was viewed as the place of ultimate punishment, exemplified by the rabbinical statement “the best of physicians are destined to Gehinnom.” (M. Kiddushin 4:14); also described in Assumption of Moses and 2 Esdras
Gehenna is the most widely used word in the NT synoptics. We stand on firm ground.
What I am interested in is why you are more interested in Hell it seems than you are of God? It seems that you fear hell. Why, if you don’t believe it?
Without hell, then heaven would not be a victory for any soul but the place we end up. And if that is the case, then why were we born on earth rather than start out in heaven? Seems the idea of being tested and allowing us free choice (as in freewill) is frightening to you. But wouldn’t the alternative be worse? What if God could display His Commandments in the heavens for you to read clearly? Would you be scared straight? Or better yet what if you had no freewill and had to do His Will like a robot? Then what did we do to gain a victorious and glorious hereafter? Heaven makes no sense, and our lives make no sense without the possibility of both. For that is why you have freewill.
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Finally! I guess you felt if you mentioned Gehenna you might lose …. face?
See, it wasn’t that hard after all now was it?
You don’t come across as outwardly stupid so why are you behaving in such a dense fashion? how many times must I explain this to you?
I have no belief in gods – neither your god nor any other.
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Then why are you so smitten with hell? You get obsessed with certain things which might lead a reader to believe that your falling away from belief is wither because you fear hell and therefore decided that no loving God would have one or that you have a predominant fault that you don’t want to jettison from your life.
And no, I wasn’t avoiding mentioning Gehenna but it has the same attributes as the word we use for that, which is hell. We say hell now and it means the same: a place of separation from God, punishment, torment and pain.
If our spirit is never ending (eviternal – has a beginning but no end) then our final end is the one purpose of our life that everything we do should be ordered to. If you don’t believe that then there is something else that stops you from giving your will over to possess that which you do not possess and know intuitively though not intellectually. But God is not simply na conception He is a person that you must surrender your will to or will to rebel against. That is why we will never find any mutual agreement. The best thing we can hope for is to agree to disagree as the old saying goes.
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I am not ”smitten with hell”. What a silly thing to write.
I just find it odd that those who claim to believe in it are ignorant of the roots of this doctrine.
You continue to reference your god when I have stated numerous times I have no belief in your god or any other. And there is no evidence of gods either.
To reiterate once more, the character Jesus was a Jew. There is no ”Hell” in Judaism therefore Jesus did not teach it.
It is this simple.
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No Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity and is not just one of many Jews walking around at the time. Secondly, Hell is identical with Gehenna so what? It meant the same in the later era of the Jewish People as it means to Christians today. Sadly the Jews today are mostly simply tribal Jews and many do not believe in hell at all anymore. That does invalidate it. And yes, Jesus spoke of Gehenna and the punishments of hell as did his apostles. I guess they were all lying.
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No, it isn’t.
Please learn your doctrine and your history.
In the bible, the character Jesus spoke
of Gehenna. Period.
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All the better. It is a perfect representation of what we call hell today.
Gehenna is most frequently described as a place of fiery torment (e.g., Matthew 5:22, Matthew 18:8-9; Mark 9:43-49); other passages mention darkness and “weeping and gnashing of teeth” (e.g., Matthew 18:12; Matthew 22:13). __ though this from Wikipedia it is accurate and describes what we call hell. The NT was written by people raised as Jews. What is your problem with that?
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I have no problem…
However, you have a problem accepting that as a Jew Jesus did not teach the Christian doctrine of Hell.
I really think you should learn your history on this matter.
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You keep saying that and yet the Church has had 2000 years of biblical and theologians studying the subject and while you and I are capable of theological addition and subtraction they are busy doing the real work of theological calculus and quadratic equations. St. Thomas and Aquinas were pretty smart cookies and I’ll take their side and the defined teaching of the Church before I fall prey to the conclusions that you have reached on your own.
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Yes, finally! The Church formulated the Christian Doctrine of Hell.
Jesus was a Jew. He did not teach the Christian Doctrine of Hell.
It was indeed the Church at Rome which first taught the pagan doctrine of endless punishment of the wicked, under the umbrella of Christianity. The Roman Catholic Latin Church Fathers, Tertullian (160-220 AD), Jerome (347-420 AD) and
Augustine (354-430 AD), all strongly believed in the doctrine of hell. These early
Latin Church Fathers are highly venerated Roman Catholic saints who believed
that God’s punishment of unbelievers (all those who reject Roman Catholicism)
would be in a hell of everlasting torment
https://dochub.com/timesoftrouble/X5zwlM/the-pagan-doctrine-of-hell?pg=2
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How do you know what He taught His Apostles. St. John tells us that it would take a library to write down all the things that He said while He was with us. I trust the Apostles and St. Paul was the student of one of the greatest Rabbis of his day an all of Israel though that he would be the next great rabbi to leave a mark on the Jewish faith. I think you can rely on His understanding of what Christ taught.
Make fun of all the earliest great minds of the Church all you want. We couldn’t hold a candle to any of them in our day. The best we can do is stand on their shoulders.
St. Jerome was the scholar that the Jewish rabbis came to and the Greek scholars as well to get clarifications on things. It seems that Jerome actually still knew the colloquialisms of those languages which other scholars had lost touch of. It is why I prefer the Douay-Rheims translation to this day. But it should not be a surprise as Christ told us that when He left us He would send the Holy Spirit Who would tell all that we needed to know. We believe in Pentecost and the sending of the Holy Spirit to the Church and therefore the indeffectability of the settled defined Doctrines of the Church concerning faith and morals. I don’t think Christ made empty promises. He said He would not leave us orphans and He didn’t.
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The article is a comprehensive explanation and take down of the Christian Doctrine of Hell.
And the writers are obviously Christian, so you cannot accuse me of punting some sort of atheist ideology in this regard.
It seems fairly obvious you didn’t follow the link and I suggest you do so.
Willful ignorance is not a virtue, so I recommend you ditch the hubris and educate yourself.
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I figured as much and their opinion is less than authoritative against the Drs. of the Church. We have some hack theologians that deny that anybody is in hell as well. So what? I believe what Church has taught for 2000 years . . . the ignorance are those who think that they know more than their betters. They are only midgets amongst giants.
What is goal? I would love for you to come to Christ and save your soul. In fact I will keep praying for that. We would call that charity since Christ does not want to lose even a single soul. But if you succeed in taking someone from that which would save their soul and deliver them to an eternal life of happiness what thrill is there for you? It has about the same appeal to me as burning a cat while it is alive or pulling the wings off of fly. There is nothing noble in your motives and if you think there is it would be interesting to know what it is that you get out of it.
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Hack? You simply refuse to acknowledge that your ”Drs.” screwed up with their translations of the bible.
Is it any wonder there are so many Christian sects?
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As I said these new translators couldn’t come close to the understanding that Jerome had of the languages involved.
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Really? We have all the tools of modern technology etc at our disposal which are now put to effective use by bible scholars whereas you are putting your trust in an indoctrinated 4th century Catholic priest.
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Actually it’s only by employing faith that any of it is palatable. It’s easy as an unbeliever to find every untruth or fault. Imagine yourself critiquing Islam or the Jehovah’s Witness. It’s super easy when you haven’t invested in the mind game of faith. It really does a number on the hormones and neurons.
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According to this logic, no theist could ever become an atheist. This means Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, and many others are not really atheists as they began with belief that they lost in later years.
Stupid atheists.
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The difference …. and there is a difference … is your initial rejection of your god was based solely on emotional reasons as a direct result of your friends suicide – you even said so yourself. I think you mentioned evil in there somewhere too?
What is lacking in your case is any thoughtful consideration regarding the claims of Christianity ( or any religion for that matter) and the complete lack of evidence to support them.
Of course theists become atheists. It happens all the time. And they remain atheists because there is no evidence to consider that the theist position holds any veracity.
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You are correct. I had no evidence for my atheism. This is because none exists. My position remains the same today.
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Snide backhanders won’t win you any points either.
There is no evidence for your Christian beliefs.
But feel free to offer what ( ”evidence”?) turned you back to your god.
Oh, and where does your porn thing come into it, as it was the first thing you mentioned regarding atheists and you claim you were one.
Should one presume you were a porn addicted atheist, yes?
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When the Marquis de Sade descended into coprophagy, I knew God must exist to drive an atheist to such sickness and depravity in his hatred for all that was good and beautiful.
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Interesting that you resort to the emotional once more, especially as you have joined a religious organization notorious for its depravity.
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Since it is well known that pride and self-love is a primary cause of sin and other psychological illnesses such as narcissism it is only the extension of such an illness that one revels in their sin; that cannot truly love (not even themselves), they have sins of the flesh that they cannot or will not give up, addictions that they will not give up and of course there is the specter of wanting to be a big fish in a small pond. To be the guy who wants to stir others up just for the fun of it . . . a type of hatred for those who reject your life and lifestyle and embrace one that they consider far more noble and fitting for a human being made in the image and likeness of God. We look to something higher . . . but you can’t find anything higher than yourself.
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Sin is a theological construct considered to be any transgression against your god.
I do not believe in your god thus have no belief in sin.
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You believe in transgression against other persons in this world don’t you? Why not the transgression of One Who is far above yourself? How about the creator who breathed life into your body?
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If you wish to talk about morality and ethics then we can discuss evolution, no problem.
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Faith without evidence is manifest as pride. Don’t you just loathe the pride that faith engenders. Must be difficult (all the lip biting) to constantly pretend such deceptive humility.
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I agree that the Catholic Church has been corrupted by depraved priests and prelates. Will you join me in condemning the depravity of pedophilia and sodomy? Do you agree with me that homosexuality is depravity?
I love when atheists make moral judgments. It makes me believe that moral relativism has been defeated once and for all.
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The Catholic Church is a corrupt organisation, period.
This makes your choice of religious sect all the more odd, considering your issue with porn addiction.
Yes, I will openly condemn pedophilia.l
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Will you also condemn infanticide?
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Are you talking generally or merely this particular case?
There is plenty of infanticide in the bible.
Are you going to divulge the details around your issue with porn as an atheist?
You did mention it in your very first comment so it is reasonable to think that this was an issue for you when you claimed to be an atheist.
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Categorically.
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good sister ark, what is this thing about porn addiction? Dont tell me, let me guess……hmmmm, i got it….youre a porn star.
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Ex-porn star. I’m too old and wrinkly these days, even if I double dose on Viagra,
I’d scare the Catholics and Fundies to death.
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Viagra is for dudes.
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And your point?
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No deep philosophical point. Viagra is for dudes, unless they came up with something for girls. i heard somewhere that there is some kind of drug to get girls going. I dont know why….all you have to do is lie there.
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And I say again … yes, I know.
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your a girl, why take viagra, unless the made on for broads, which i head they did.
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@ Bosco the Confused
I’m a girl? Really? Well, if you say so …
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ive been calling you sister for a yrs now, you never said anything. i cant tell by the mannerisms of how people talk if they are girl or boy. its a gift, if you will. your mannerisms are female. dont tell me. let me guess. uummmmmm. let me look into my Chrystal ball. hummm, i see, im starting to see…im seeing a slack jaw. wait…im seeing limp wrists. good sister ark, are trying to tell me a male with female tendencies? a little sugar in the ol tank. good heavens, we havent had one of those here in a number of yrs. his name was, um, gosh, it was dragon something or another, i cant remember. he was berserk. he had gone mad with self loathing because of his same sex attraction. gosh, eh, brother ark, i hope you deal with it better that the dragon.
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You seemed to be having so much fun I didn’t want to spoil it for you.
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correction…i can tell…..by mannerisms
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well, i guess you didnt mind being called sister. mind if i ask you a personal question….do you dress as a guy or a chick? just wondering.
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I do have a penchant for a little black number, but then, only when I go to church.
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well, id wish you a merry christmas but i know you dont care and jesus wasnt born today. the damned catholic cchurch made the winter solstice a holy day to attract pagans. the catholic church is pagan.
i just want you to know i dont condemn you for being transgender. i am a sinner too. we all are. im still having problems believing you were born a male. maybe youre a female trying to be a male.
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i wonder if your compatriate jim is also a femme. getting married and having a family is a good cover for being gay. rock hudson tried it.
ay jimbbo, got a little sugar in your tank? that could explain why you hate god so much. he condemns your life style.
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Categorically.
I don’t necessarily agree with Dawkin’s POV.
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What are your views on partial birth abortion? Is this infanticide?
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You claim you were once an atheist so what was your issue with porn and why did your initial comment begin with ”… porn addicted atheists. ”
Let’s get this out of the way first, then we can continue .
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There is far more porn viewed in the most religious areas. Google clicks don’t lie. Porn addiction is spawned by the taboos of sex, and amoral act.
An atheist is far less likely to have a porn addiction than any outspoken Christian. Those that squawk the loudest typically have the deepest closets.
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@ Jim
Well, I am still waiting for his response on the porn issue. As he is adamant he was a former atheist I am curious about his own position regarding the vitriolic opening salvo of his initial comment about ”…..porn addicted atheists.”
I doubt there is enough integrity there that we should expect a straightforward honest answer.
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He is an atheist Ark. if you have to reason your way into the church it’s because you don’t believe it. He lacks confidence, ergo, apply faith. Not in Jesus, but in the explainers. If something is wrong, it’s easiest/quickest (nearly automatic) to A: Blame someone, B: Go back to your roots. Call it IBS.. Not irritable Bowel Syndrome, but Inherited Belief Syndrome, or I now, am my own source of BS.
His coattailing is a contradiction in the faith. Jesus knows his sheep, right?…he was never chosen.
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Do you think, therefore, as he is an atheist he is still ”porn addicted”, and is banking on Jesus forgiving him?
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I’d say he’s just looking for some help. It won’t come through obedience to the churches. Overcoming addiction is only done through self empowerment then self actualización. Like quitting smoking or another bad habit, we find another level of living to supplant it and it feels better than the habit.
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*Shrug* What do I know?
I was addicted to tobacco for decades.
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With porn the addiction is primarily because it’s taboo©. When one Atheizes the realization hits you that your in charge of it all. That empowerment is a huge advance toward ethical living, not the other way around as Scoop suggests vehemently. I wouldn’t have believed that myself as a believer, but it’s true.
Charlie was never an atheist but he is also not a believer. He lacks confidence because of his anchoring biases. The churches are great at instilling self doubt. He still says he was mad at god and went in a binge. That is not atheism at all.
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Yes, this was the point I was trying to make.
As an atheist, I cannot think of anything more ridiculous than stating I was ”Mad at God”.
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I’ve never heard an atheist say that they’re angry at god. Only believers say that about atheists. Over 25,000 comments, countless links and 500 of my own posts, yours and dozens of other blogs and comments I’ve never heard an atheist be mad at god. Embarrassed, maybe that they were duped, but being angry at god? Maybe angry at the idea of god and the religions in spawns, would be the right way to say it.
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Say do either of you two god haters give presents on christmas?
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Can’t speak for Jim, but I usually give autographed photos of Jesus and copies of Life of Brian
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God haters? How can one hate what isn’t there? Sure I give presents. Lots and lots, the whole family is atheists though. It’s fun to see my nine year old roll her eyes over the nativity scene.
Funny how with all the miracles of Jesus birth, the star, the wise men, the later warning to flee to Egypt, and of course the virgin birth, visits by angels and wot not, impregnated by miracle, that Mary forgot all that happened and thought the boy was crazy. His own mother didn’t believe the story you’ve all fallen for.
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I always found this to be a tad odd as well. Early onset dementia perhaps?
After all, they surely wouldn’t simply make this stuff up would they?
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Wist ye not that I must be about my fathers business? Even at the temple (while he was teaching the rabbis) at age 12 they forgot his high calling and all the miracles. The story may have kept her from being stoned to death for boinking the neighbor boy mere years ago, but like all lies they unravel after a couple of simple questions.
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Didn’t she have a girlie chat with her relative Liz who was preggo with John the B?
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She did. It’s all in the word of the lawd. Strange she forgot she was the only person in the history of the world to have a god child while still a virgin. She knew the child was special though, just ask Bosco.
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mary knew the child was special…..she just had no clue he was god come in the flesh. Thats always a hard pill to swallow. So good brother jim, youve got the kiddies to have no faith in their maker. Good job bonehead. Maybe as they get older someone will witness to them and the come to the saving truth of christ. Then you will be next.
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Maybe she’ll sheeple too. She’s pretty smart when it comes to this. Her school routinely has someone shout out about be covered in the blood of Jesus. It’s quite a spectacle. Would you deny my freewill to raise her to observe the silliness of religious faith, bonehead?
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Ps—because she actually knew the child was made out of teenage passion. That, if any of it were true at all. The play-writes dragged it out so long they misstepped on the virgin thing. Silly, and hard to keep generational lies intact.
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hey good brother jimbo, you got a gun in the house. Better lock it up. Since there is no afterlife and no reward for good or evil, the latest craze for school kids is shooting as many as they can then shoot themselves to escape any just rewards. Ah, just think…..you were responsible for that mindset.
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Yes. The Christian kids have loads of guns at home and they use them. It’s all for when faith fails. Looks like the US is setting another record year for gun sales. Jesus must be coming soon. I prefer old school axes, spears, and archery. Did you know I am en expert in medieval weapons? Guns are for pussies. Surely your joking or ignorant if you think atheism equals gun violence. Quite the opposite. You guys on the other hand, hope to see Armageddon and watch all those sinners burn for not believing a fable. But I love you.
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expert on clubs and axes eh, well good for you. bGuns are for when dirt bags break into your house. Theres a rumor guns will be outlawed to sell, so hence the panic buying.
tears of joy must of welled up in your eyes when you heard one of the coulumbine atheists ask this girl if she believed in jesus. she said yes and he shot her dead. Nice little story you can tell the kids around the camp fire.
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Certainly are a hateful dick aren’t you. Since you love heart warming, your favorite Christian Hitler must give you a real jolly. Have you ever seen the list of high profile clerics and cardinals that said he was doing gods work? Now though, because of secular pressure Christians condemn it. But your all the same. Obedience to god is more often than not, unethical behavior
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youre talking about the catholic church that beat the drum for killing jews. i dont belong to the catholic church or any religion. Jesus is a man, not a religion.
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I’m not talking about the Catholic Church. It’s the Bible Belt evangelicals that have the highest porn views. You should know that.
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@ Bosco.
Christianity is a religion. You are a Christ follower. That makes you a Christian.
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Good brother jim, i dont know what evangelicals do. im not one of them, but i know teens love looking at naked girls. catholic or evangelical. i live with them.
yes good BROTHER ark, im christian, but we dont consider the unsaved christians. theres only a few of us. which means nothing to you.
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You are referring to atheists, I presume?
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i knew you worldnt under stand good Brother ark. hey, speaking of porn, ive got just the site for you. its a gay porn site i own and operate called……..cherrybombcoutour.blogspot.com……..come in and sign in and become a member. love to have you.
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Vete a la mierda pendejo.
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@ Bosco the Clown
So, if not atheists who are you talking about?
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never mind good brother ark. dont worry about it.
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Say, good brother scoop, i didnt know you were a recent convert to the CC. I enjoyed your criticism of the state of affairs in the CC. You are my hero, besides good brother quiav. I take it youre not sorry you joined it. here is the latest church militant video
i watch them every day. Its beautiful to watch the CC circling the drain as it goes down the toilet.
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