Well the report on sexual abuse from 6 Dioceses in PA has hit the press and it is mind boggling to say the least. Over a 1000 children have been sexually abused and over 300 priests were indicated as the perpetrators of this abuse. Cardinal Wuerl was mentioned over 200 times in the report which lays at his feet complicity and the coverup of these crimes when he was in Charge of the Pittsburgh Diocese.
The usual mode of operation in such things as this was prevalent as we all could guess: the code of silence among the knowing, the shell game of moving priests around, the deniability of charges and the sending of these perverts to ‘rehabilitation’ institutions to only be brought back for active ‘service’ to the community. Sound familiar? It should, as we have seen this since the late 90’s and early 2000’s showed us the filth and corruption that has gained control in our Church.
How gullible are we? Very, it seems. Did we think that the Dallas meeting in 2002 had cleaned out the Church and made it nearly impossible for this to happen again? I guess most of us wanted to believe so. Did they ever put in place any directives for themselves or was it all aimed at priests, and those who work with children in the parishes; like the awful VIRTUS program that all catechists must endure in order to teach a classroom of children? Is there any wonder why men no longer are teaching children in most parishes?
And this is only 1 state and only 6 dioceses of that state. How about the other states in the US. How about your own diocese. Isn’t it about time that we get similar reports from every diocese in this country? And not only this country; it needs to be implemented worldwide and especially within the Vatican hierarchy as well. Lets get all the documents out and have them delivered to civil authorities to deal with.
You wonder what the tally of victims would look like then; is it in the 100’s of thousands? There is no telling. But this only counts the victims of sex abuse. It does not include the families and the relatives of these victims or the spiritual abuse that many have suffered at the hands of these same religious predators. How many have left the faith, because they now see the Church as a den of iniquity? Who wants to go to Confession and speak of the most private sins with those whom we harbor doubts about their own predatory lives?
Do parents want to raise their children in such an atmosphere?
In some respects, every single Catholic has been abused and smeared with the filth of these predators. We all walk on egg shells around children now, for fear that someone might think we too are like those predators. God forbid you give a hug to a child who needs one. Best leave a door open and make sure that there is no unsafe touching going on. And if you are tired of your Protestant, agnostic and atheist friends belittling your Church, are you quickly losing your faith and are you contemplating just leaving the Church altogether.
The abuse of the Faithful is not just sexual it is spiritual. And this spiritual abuse is likely to drive many from our parishes and prevent those who were thinking of joining the Church to rethink that decision.
So don’t think that this is an isolated instance and that the implications for the Church is simply temporary. If they do not clean this out and take all the heat at once, it will blow up all over again. And one of the biggest reasons it is likely to blow up again is the fact that almost everyone is blackmail-able to some extent. And in the ranks of power, the powerful know how to use the dirty (not so secret) secrets of their peers to gain more power and prestige. So it is not just the homosexuals or the pedophiles we need to purge but every power hungry prelate that lives by the Code of Silence and perpetuates the blackmail of other priests and bishops for their own gain.
In some ways, we are losing our ability to believe that our prelates are ever going to change their ways. And this loss in our trust and in our hope for returning to the Faith that we like to imagine is possible, is growing ever fainter in our minds.
If you abuse our children, you abuse our trust, you abuse our spirituality and our hope. But most of all you abuse Christ and His Church.
At this point, the laity should give zero money to any parishes. Do not give pearls to the swine until Bishops and priest who are involved given up to the secular courts and if founded guilty sent to prison. I may ever be satisfied until both Cardinal Weurl and McCarrick are behind bars.
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Remember also that Paul collected for the poor in Jerusalem, not just to pay for presbyters or other “officials”. Your money may well be better spent on direct forms of charity that you know have no connections to the tainted hierarchy: food drives, etc.
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Yes to organizations outside the reach of the dioceses and parishes. My particular diocese pulls 10% of from every parish for their operating budget. So, if you to your local parish; you give to the Bishop. Also, you can “earmark” your funds to certain ministers in the parish; however, again the problem there is just like governments, they’ll just move money around once they have it.
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I wonder if there are any non-denominational works that benefit Catholics. Wycliffe Bible Translators are a worthy cause: I was going to join them at one stage in my life and I know they have worked and do work with Catholics in many countries.
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I think there are lay organizations that pretty much operate within their own budget. The St. Vincent De Paul society at my parish is lay run and they get their funding by separate donations.
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That sounds good. I honestly believe the times were are moving into will require an ability to move independently of the hierarchy. Being in Baptist church, I don’t tend to have these problems because we are by nature independent, but I worry about what’s going on in the CofE, which seems to parallel the RCC.
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This is an embarrassment. They’re criminals.
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Maybe the laity need to set up prayer groups around this issue. In the UK there is a prophetic call to set up prayer groups to pray about Brexit and the reform of our nation.
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They’re actually diabolic.
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What we have here is a loss of faith, love of Christ and a desire to become saints; to become holy. Holiness is lacking in our priests and I just witnessed a priest this weekend who obviously embraced it all. It is moving to see and when it is lacking what we get are social workers who live a worldly life.
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The Bible Project have quite a good video on holiness. It doesn’t cover everything, but it serves as a good introduction and starter for discussion.
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It was and is and should be the center of all who enter the Church and especially expressed in word and deed by our pastors and shepherds.
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Cardinal Wuerl needs that hat taken away from him. He was the Bishop of Pittsburgh since 1988, he is just as complicit as McCarrick.
While we’re at it, let’s start investigating Cupich too.
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Amen, and don’t stop there. This is a global problem and we need to treat it as such.
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In 6 dioceses, 1000 known cases, the number is catastrophic world wide.
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I know. And if you count the families and the rest of us (including the good priests and bishops) they are spiritually abused as well. As far as I am concerned the people they abused comes out to approximately 1.5 billion souls.
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I’ll go to Mass tonight and they’ll be no mention, “business” as usual.
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I just got back and we heard nothing as well.
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I am so angry, I have tears in my eyes. And they sit and do nothing but be accomplices.
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Yeah, they address this like the USCCB addresses everything, with a new document that will end up in the trashcan.
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Scoop just got back from mass. The sad thing is that I was so angry that I had little desire to go. By God’s grace, and forming the habit of going to Mass, I made it. It took everything I had not to walk out during the beginning but by the end Christ gave me some peace.
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Welcome to my normal Sunday Mass experience, Phillip. I think there is much to gain through perseverance . . . the only time to leave is when heresy is being expounded and/or real chaos erupts. Then you need to find another parish . . . even though most aren’t much better. I walked out a bilingual recently when they had an amplified mariachi band playing. It was too much . . . I couldn’t take it.
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I’ve been moving toward that line of thinking as well. There are charitable groups I give donations to, who I am confident will make better use of my money. I’ve not heard of any of these shenanigans in my diocese, but I dread the day such news breaks locally. Terrible state of affairs that we sit on pins and needles wondering when, not if, a sex abuse scandal will strike close to home in our diocese. I had a talk with my Baptist wife about this, how I struggle at times to find a reason how I can remain Catholic during all of this, and she has been a source of strength and encouragement to stay the course and do what I can to oppose the evil. I love the historical ironies in that.
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My wife is Lutheran, who knows the source and summit of my faith is the Eucharist tied to Apostolic succession. I get the irony, early on she was a little more pro-converting but now she understands that without Apostolic succession my faith would be hallow. So, she keeps me straight as well. Of course, knowing this m, one can understand why I’m this furious about the whole situation.
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There’s something simultaneously comforting and highly disconcerting, the feeling of having nowhere else to go during times when the temptation to cut and run becomes overpowering. My own casual internet search tells me that Orthodoxy worldwide seems to have its own problems with these things, especially in the old world where clericalism probably has more cultural power among Orthodox believers. Probably not to the extent that we have it though. I’ve read the Book of Concord, can’t say I agree with enough of it to justify going back toward Lutheranism, and nothing else out there really speaks to me. As my wife has pointed out, my relationship with God has flourished the most, and probably wouldn’t exist in much substance, apart from Catholicism in my own case.
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Stephen even the married priests of Orthodoxy is a problem. Although we had married priests in our early Church, continence was always demanded and even understood as a necessity as is was with the Jewish priesthood. The idea in the NT priesthood was even more important as our priests are supposedly married in a spiritual way to the Church (the Bride of Christ) and therefore incontinence makes no sense. In fact it is like becoming an adulterer.
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Yeah, as I’ve stated before on here, I don’t agree with the classical Lutheran view of justification, the Eucharist, and the priesthood. I’ve sat and thought about the arguments and I’m just not convinced. Of course, some may attribute it to being raised Catholic, well okay.
My biggest problem with Orthodoxy is the historiography. If people followed my comments with Craig on conversions, it got fairly heated. But I remember in college was the first time I met a Russian Orthodox; he spoke about the schism in this manner, “When you left us…” Of course, I suppose it’s all how one views the Petrine primacy.
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So, I must retract what I said previously when I said I was unaware of any sex abuse and subsequent coverups by our diocese. I did an internet search of our diocese, which revealed some sex abuse cases going back to 2015 and the same old story—the hierarchy doing their best to keep things hidden from public view while paying lip service to a safe environment. I’m thinking what trifles I was throwing to my parish money-wise, will be no more.
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By the way, there is a discussion of the PA situation on Anglican Unscripted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oonlJhpmOI – but its just a bit at the beginning of a video discussing other stuff as well.
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Frank Walker is good in this post, but just complaining since there are no solutions with the bishops answering like they are. Sorry, I’m so sorry, just does not get it this time. Cardinal Wuerl in an interview on Tuesday said “but what about all those back ground checks we required.” This was put on the backs of the laity! Did all the priests and bishops have to go through tough checks? Hell no! It was just steady as she goes. The bishops were trying to avoid scandal to themselves and the Church at all costs. Payouts in the billions since 2002, and it will happen again this time, all within less than 20 years. Have the bishops learned anything? The biggest pox on the ass of the Church in the last two years has been Fr. James Martin and his book, running around promoting homosexuality. Many, many bishops have welcomed him into their parishes to spread the filth. Sodomites are the problem, not the solution! Martin’s teaching is against the teaching of the Church. We can’t have that anymore. And all the bishops that welcomed him should be gone tomorrow. Leaders of men can not be homosexuals.
But, and listen to me very carefully. We can’t expect the bishops to police themselves. History has proven this not to work. So, it’s up to the Attorney Generals in the other 49 states to plant themselves in the diocese offices and demand all records. They are the only solution.
http://stumblingblock.org/?p=12537
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This is also worth a few minutes. http://wmbriggs.com/post/25155/
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This is a great comment to Steve’s letter, which I will link to. If only we all could do this.
theo Fr. Miguel • 4 hours ago
Actually there are three kinds of priests, gays who shouldn’t be priests at all, straight priests who do not keep their vow of celibacy and should not be priests either, and straight priests who do keep it and strive to be holy priests. I want the first two kinds identified and defrocked.
A starting place, Fr. Miguel, is to ask, are you straight, and do you keep your vow of celibacy? If you say no to either, you should ‘fess up and get out. If you say yes to both, you should gather other brother priests you know are also straight and faithful, and start demanding the same answers from every priest you know. So should we laity. We should ask our priests and bishops straight out, and keep asking until we get believable answers, or until the liars give up and leave.
Because frankly a lot of the bishops are part of the problem. Why should a gay or unfaithful straight bishop correct others who are the same? We know there is blackmail going on in the Church. The only way to end it is to expose the corruption that provides the basis for blackmail.
So, if you said yes to both questions, gather your brother priests who can do the same and go to the priest you have doubts about, and ask him to his face. Call it fraternal correction if you want, spiritual admonishment which is a spiritual work of mercy, but keep asking until you get a believable answer. Videotape it if you can and have it analyzed by a body language expert. But ask.
And get up in front of your congregations and tell them you’re straight and keep your vows, and ask their help in exposing those who don’t. If the leaders won’t do it from the top, we have to do it from the bottom. But not alone, we are too vulnerable that way. In company with others, and with witnesses. But be open with us. We’re dying for honest priests not afraid of telling us the truth from the pulpit, and not afraid of confronting evil. The time for silence and hiding in the name of some false charity is past (or in the name of protecting the Church, secrecy is destroying the Church), and we will stand by you and help you if you will stand up and start doing what needs to be done.
https://onepeterfive.com/an-open-letter-to-our-priests/
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It just takes one Bishop to decide that his soul is more important than being blackmailed and the rest will fall like dominoes.
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Wuerl’s response: http://amp.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/cardinal-wuerl-addresses-report-on-child-sex-abuse-by-priests-says-he-will-not-resign?__twitter_impression=true
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since the late 90’s and early 2000’s showed us the filth and corruption that has gained control in our Church.
Youre only kidding yourself. Its been this way from the start. Just ask good brother Martin Luther.
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Yes.
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