Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson have recently posted a video discussing their UKIP membership, plans for the future of the party, Brexit, and the mainstream media’s war against classical liberalism. The video is 44 minutes long: watch as much or as little as you like. These men are well-known on the internet, appealing to wide and diverse audiences – and also attracting their share of attacks from centrists and leftists.
It should be noted, however, that Parliament is seriously considering plans to ban internet trolls from public office: https://news.sky.com/story/online-trolls-could-be-banned-from-public-office-under-government-plans-11452993. This worries me because I question not only the morality of banning someone from public office for being (or having been) a troll, but also how the government will define what a troll is and how it will apply that definition to real people?
Are SoA and PJW trolls? I would not have said so: they are engaging in serious debate about the future of Britain and the West. If such anti-troll legislation is created, will it be applied to them? Who knows – but I would not rule it out. Even on appeal, I am not sure whether judges would interpret the term troll to include them.
Britain is in a sorry state at the moment: now, more than ever, it needs to hear voices of people, like SoA and PJW, who support classical liberalism, who support liberty. Let us hope that Parliament does not pass this anti-troll law, and let us hope that UKIP can become more than a one-trick pony and can attract enough of the electorate to shape British politics for the better in the post-Brexit future.
You definitely have your work cut out for you and I wish you well in fighting against these malevolent forces. And you are right to mistrust any (even if it sounds reasonable) restrictions on free speech due to the fact, as you say, who is going to decide what is inappropriate and that which is not.
In the US I am fine at listening to Maxine Waters spew her hatred and calls for violence for it shows them as the bigots and haters that they really are. You do not see this from the Trump crowd which is maligned for being so dangerous and violent and thus their defense for using such language. The only problem is that it is all fake news and unverified accusations that they spew forth on a daily basis.
We are tired of listening to such madness from the left and I think it paints them in a light that will not serve them well in the future. So for all the bias that the media tries to levy against Trump and his voters, they are making his case against their vendetta and their own prejudices and their penchant for violence against those who won the election. They seem to be a bunch of liars and ninnies who can’t believe that their tactics and their arguments are not winning in the arena of ideas. They are losing and they can’t accept that fact.
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Yes: the left are the real tyrants, because they use the state to suppress the views of the right. The right doesn’t want to censor the left; it just wants the left to give up its unfair advantages. Should the right ascend through democracy and explanation of its views in the forum of ideas, the left responds with violence – Antifa, etc.
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They do and they are complete hypocrites.
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Yes – ironically we love liberty more than they do. They complain about us taking away things from them, but nothing could be further from the truth. Generally speaking, classical liberals don’t want laws that make prostitution or drugs or homosexual sex illegal; they just don’t want groups to have advantages over other groups – e.g. classical liberals hate positive discrimination as a practice in hiring for jobs.
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Indeed so. But classical liberals also want the right to argue against prostitution, drugs and homosexual sex. Where these things are never destroyed by govt. intervention but actually create an underground crime ring to infest our society it is much better to win hearts and minds and have peer pressure and societal values put a damper on such activities because it is the right thing not because we can outlaw it at the federal or state level.
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Exactly. This is where I think a lot of people go wrong: they think government can win hearts and minds – but generally it can’t; it can only make things harder or easier in earthly terms. Moral persuasion, true repentance, must come from God through the Church. When the Church is corrupt, the people as a whole suffer. The Church is meant to shine like a star in the midst of society. Society is in darkness.
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Indeed and what do Marxists, Socialists, Fascist and Communists do? They try to suppress the family and the Church because they see such things as resistance to the power of the state to regulate every aspect of our lives.
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Indeed. They are, in truth, attacks on individualism, and that is dangerous in both metaphysical and physical terms. People cannot be saved for you: it is up to the individual whether he chooses to enter a covenant with YHWH or not. If he never makes a choice because he think someone else will make it for him, he will be lost. Apathy is death.
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And the fallout from this new idea that the state cannot execute its criminals, is really another attack on justified killing; such as in war or in taking down a corrupt regime which moral families and churches have done over and over again.
The elites are in reality trying to share the privileges of a monarchy with special deference for themselves and utilizing its citizenry to bolster their power and prestige. They have no real moral issues with killing their political enemies but they do want to convince us that they have the moral high ground and that the mobs should be eliminated although they are the mob that needs to be eliminated. Funny how that works.
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Indeed: unbridled arrogance leads to a fall. Our Lady made as much plain: “He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted the lowly. He has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich He has sent away empty.” (Luke 1, NKJV)
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Indeed, these socialistic governments want to hear nothing about that unless it means taking down wealthy people and businesses and confiscating their money for the state. With Apple at a Trillion Dollars they will want to take them over along with their holdings . . . although as long as that mega-company supports them they will be used as useful idiots to their cause. So this is why we get cronyism with large money corporations playing footsie with the left. They don’t want to be destroyed; better to be friends with the enemies of capitalism.
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It’s disgusting and insane: our world has become so contorted that the few John the Bapstists crying in the wilderness with the voice of common sense sound like lunatics. When righteous men look like lunatics, society has become truly bad.
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Rational thinking has been stood on its head in our times. Satan loves to confuse and he is doing his best it seems.
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I blame empiricism as one of his tools – the moment we said there was nothing beyond the world of the senses, we became enslaved to them.
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The here and now is what we have been led to desire. Our moment to moment pleasure of life is their promise and yet more people are mentally ill due to this whole new mindset and goal in life. It sounds good to the hedonistic and solipsistic amongst us but they are turning into basket cases.
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Yes -no concept of the eyes of God and spirits watching us, of the resurrection and judgment.
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Temporal pleasures and treasures all all they know; there is no teleological end for man in their eyes.
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Yes; we have been reduced to children running a playground with no adults around – they have no grasp of a purpose, a growth pattern, and other beings standing behind the veil. I am almost persuaded that the evil spirits have decided not to perform obvious “miracles” in the West in order to keep us this way – that is probably not right, but it feels like it some days.
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O but the end that they will lead men to will be a shocking moment . . . even here among the living. Anarchy is raising its head already and nobody can impose his laws or morality on anyone else. We can only imagine how bad this will get once everyman is living solely for self gratification. Without a belief in God or some accountability what will life be like?
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Rather like the picture described in Judges – miserable. I’ve no desire to see the French Revolution replayed – once was enough. My prayer is the God will use Brexit as a springboard for Britain to leap away from the madness and begin righting herself. Europe – I hold out little hope for them as a whole, but there are pockets of resistance.
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Indeed there are pockets of resistance which gives us hope. As things start spiraling out of control they may start siding with the resistance and soon the resistance will be the majority . . . at least that is my hope. But yes Britain righting itself would help. I might give more voice to the pockets of resistance in Europe as well. We can still hope and pray that will be so.
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Indeed. The picture of the end should not be read as complete domination by the forces of evil – “all” seldom means “all” in our sense of the word in Scripture.
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Very true.
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The irony of Bergoglio’s change regarding the death penalty is in fact making it more probable that anarchy and death of innocent people will take place without any detergents and any recourse. It paves the way for these ideological, globalist regimes and gives them moral footing . . . which it really does not have. We have always reserved our right to eliminate an unjust government and replace it: thus we have the 1st and 2nd Amendments here in the US. So that is the only reason, in my mind, that we haven’t been enslaved by these power hungry elites although they have made great strides in riling up the dissatisfied and they encourage making life harder for these dissatisfied people as it is the basis of their power.
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Yes; I believe in the death penalty – to be reserved only for certain kinds of case of course – I approve its use in treason cases. There is such a thing as treason: I believe people with British passports who become jihadis should be stripped of their British citizenship and executed.
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Absolutely. They are enemies of the state and they are a danger to the people. The state should do everything it can for the good of the people . . . letting them destroy your country is anything but that.
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I would go so far as to say that such executions should be public also – no air of privacy or quietness. They warred against the people, now the people will get their justice.
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I’d like to see every aborted fetus named and given a burial at the expense of those who had them; no govt. subsidies for this.
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Indeed. I cannot help but think of all those urns in Carthage where the Phoenicians interred the children they had sacrificed. What have we become?
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In a word; evil.
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The earth is getting ready, a dress rehearsal if you will, for the reign of the man of sin. You don’t like me or my message, so you will most likely love his. The Man od Sin will have an image for the people to worship. That ought to suit you fine.
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Since we agree with you that this is a dress-rehearsal for the reign of the Antichrist, why do you suppose we would fall for his deceptions?
The Antichrist will preach that vice is virtue. Jorge Bergoglio is a prophet of Antichrist. The lamb that speaks as a dragon; yes indeed.
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The lamb that speaks as a dragon is the USA and its Internal Revenue Agency. I can back that up in anyone cares.
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If it’s THE lamb, then this isn’t a dress rehearsal.
Dare I ask what your logic is on that one?
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Why do I think anyone would fall for the antichrists deceptions? Look at the phoney religions we have on the earth today. People subscribe to them because they believe they are doing gods will. Protestants, ther real ones, not Mormons or jehovas, they don’t have a religion per se. So its up in the air how they will react to the Beast and his Image. You know first hand that bowing befor images and utilizing images and pictures is the mainstay of the CC. If catholics believe in that god forbidden stuff, they will have no trouble with the Image of the Beast. But Quiav the Great, you are forgetting something. Something BIG. Read the passage again. It doest say people will be tricked into worshiping the Beast….it says the Beast CAUSES everyone to worship the Beast and his Image. If you don’t take theMark, you cant buy or sell. Howmany people do you know who are willing to tough it out? Older people, families, anyone who wants to eat and provide for their families. They will line up to take the Mark as ordered. Quiav the Great, you are also forgetting the good news. We can escape this time of trouble. Jesus knocks on your door. let him in and sup with him. He gives you a new spirit that was made in heaven and knows him. This is what is called being saved from the wrathto come…saved for short. The saved will be taken. We are the bride, the church, the body of Christ and his body will not be put thru the wrath of the Almighty God. We will meet him in the air. Get born again and then your house will be saved. Its a promise from the Almighty himself. My daughter got saved. She is my house. I have no body else.
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True, the Beast will put great temptation in the way of the just; but I do not fear because God is my strength and my Redeemer. In the day of trial, His Grace will be sufficient for us; He has promised it. Even though when we think of it, we may be tempted to doubt that we will have the fortitude to prevail. But the fortitude is not ours of ourselves, but of Christ by Grace.
“You know first hand that bowing before images and utilizing images and pictures is the mainstay of the CC.”
No, it isn’t. The mainstay of the Catholic Church is the Holy Eucharist.
But of course, if you don’t believe Our Lord’s word, you will think the Eucharist is idolatry.
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