DISCLAIMER: the following is a discussion of principles of banking and Roman jurisprudence. The author is not a qualified lawyer. This post is not intended or offered as a guide to banking or investment at the time of writing or in the future. For current legal advice on the status of different kinds of banking, please consult a qualified lawyer.
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I am currently reading a sample of Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles, by Jesus Huerta de Soto, a professor of Applied Economics at King Juan Carlos University, and a Senior Fellow of the Mises Institute. The book is fascinating, exploring the legal, moral, and economic understanding of different kinds of banking through the ages, beginning with an examination of Roman jurisprudence (which forms the basis of the civil law systems of Western Europe and South America). This book is a critique of fractional reserve banking from an Austrian economic point of view.
He begins by making a distinction between deposit banking and loan banking. In deposit banking, which can be split into two subcategories, regular and irregular, the depositary agrees to protect the deposit of the depositor, guaranteeing its availability to the depositor at any time upon request. In the regular version, a specific item is left (e.g. a painting), which can be reclaimed later. In the irregular version, fungible goods (e.g. money) are left, and the depositary guarantees to return, upon request, goods in the same amount of the same quality and value (but not the specific coins originally handed over), referred to in Latin as the tantundem qualitatis et bonitatis. The depositary, in running a business, will sometimes charge for this security and availability service. He must always keep the same amount of the given good as originally deposited, otherwise he will have be found to have misappropriated it. In some law systems, not only would such action give rise to criminal liability, but it would also create a right to interest on the part of the depositor, to compensate him for the time in which he did not have access to the full amount of his deposit.
Loan banking, on the other hand, works quite differently. In this instance, the lender agrees to forego access to an amount of money, for example, for a set term, on the understanding that he will receive the same amount back with additional interest at the end of the term. If the banker fails to meet these terms, he will be in breach of contract (and may be liable for misrepresentation, if he never had the intention of honouring his agreement). The speculative nature of this kind of banking entails a greater kind of risk, since the banker will use the money to generate the both or either capital or income in order to yield interest to the lender. Accordingly, in Roman jurisprudence, in the event of insolvency, depositors ranked higher in priority than creditors, since creditors were deemed to have accepted the risk that their investments might prove fruitless.
There are a number of dangers inherent in the existence of these two systems side-by-side. Firstly, there is the danger that a bank patron will choose the wrong service for his needs, either through ignorance on his part or as the result of miscommunication or deception. A person who thought he was a depositor, when in law he was a creditor, would be very angry in the event of his bank’s insolvency. Secondly, there is the danger that an unscrupulous banker will appropriate money from the deposit for use as a loan in the belief that he will have generated a return to pay back the loss before the depositor asks for his money back.
The latter danger is the essence of fractional reserve banking. A bank that operates in this manner gambles on the probability that at any one time, there will not be a demand for withdrawals that is greater than the sums held on reserve. Such a practice would be considered unethical in Roman jurisprudence, but is mainstream in Western banking today. The problem occurs when just such an unlikely scenario occurs, triggered by fears of bad investments in the commercial world or concerns about mismanagement by company officers or general adverse economic conditions.
In such an event, where a bank cannot meet the demands of its clients, it must be declared insolvent, unless it can be rescued. If the bank is allowed to go insolvent, this will be a great pain to the natural and non-natural persons who have left money with it. There will be some ripples from this as the missing funds will mean that some contracts and plans dependent on them cannot proceed. However, the overall effect will be contained.
How might the bank be “rescued”? Private individuals could try to make up the losses – but few would be willing to do this, and those who did will not be remunerated if their contributions are gifts. If they are loans, there is the possibility that the bank will not be able to repay them. If it does, this may come at someone else’s expense.
If the government decides to shore up the bank, it will have to find money of its own to do this: it can print more money at the central bank; it can take out a loan; it can raise taxes. If the government prints more money, it is likely that this will cause inflation because, chances are, demand for money will not increase proportionately. Inflation decreases the spending power of the national currency, so this measure effectively works out as a tax on citizens. If it also undermines international confidence in the country, this can have an impact on foreign investment.
If the government raises taxes, this imposes an additional burden on taxpayers but also creates further problems. It encourages other banks to behave as recklessly as the example above in the belief that the government will rescue them too. Furthermore, it creates ill feeling among the citizenry, because many will ask why they should have to pay for the misfeasance of others. Thirdly, if corporation tax is increased, this will encourage many businesses to move to countries with a lower rate.
Lastly, there is the loan option. This has the same problems as the tax example above, only the effects are deferred. The loan will eventually have to be repaid, especially if it is owed to a foreign creditor. The more loans the state has to take out, the greater the chance of a fall in confidence, which could encourage people to sell their stockpiles of that nation’s currency, decreasing its purchasing power on the foreign markets.
Given all of the above, one can understand why many would prefer for there to be a clear demarcation between deposit accounts and loan accounts in banks. A bank should maintain a 100% reserve at all times for its deposit accounts and charge a fee for its services (safeguarding, counting, paying bills), since it is doing this as a business. The more people who use the bank, the lower the fee will be, because the bank can make economies of scale. When someone opens an account, they should always have an adviser who explains in simple terms exactly what their options are and what the consequences of these options will be in the event of insolvency. Loan accounts could still be permitted under this scheme, because they are effectively investments. Provided that the risks are explained to the customer before he contracts with the bank, there will be no misrepresentation and he will be deemed to have accepted the risk. It will be fair to let him lose out by not having the government refund him if the investment proves bad. What should not happen, as has in the past, is the mixing of funds from loan and deposit accounts.
And then you have the FDIC and Government Treasury Notes and a host of other things which complicates the banking system. I doubt too many people fully understand what all is going on with our money once we deposit it the local bank branch where we might do business.
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Yes, the book goes on to look at the broader picture and recommends a return to the gold standard with privately issued notes.
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Its all ‘illusory money’ at the moment and the real worth has nothing to do with what is printed on the money.
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I’m just reading the article you sent me. I like it so far. Also saw the author’s short post about Italy extending citizenship to Alfie Evans. What a crazy world we live in. I think it is all going to get worse before it gets better. Eschatologically that makes sense too: in a sense, it doesn’t matter if a-millennialism / post-millennialism or pre-millennialism is true, because either way there is a final satanic push before the Return. The only option we can’t tolerate is a kind of preterism that denies a final satanic rebellion – that kind of thinking is dangerous.
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Well a preterism that also believes in a double meaning which includes a final eschatological climax is fine. I find myself in that school to an extent: for I think that what did happen was like the ‘models’ that occur throughout scripture for later events that fulfill the message.
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Yes, I’m happy with that version too. The one thing I won’t stand is people claiming Jesus has already returned or that persecution is coming. I’ve got no problem with double fulfilment / deposit fulfilment. That reasoning applies to Paul’s point about the Spirit in the Church: the life we experience now is a down-payment for the resurrection.
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Oops, that should read “persecution is NOT coming” – i.e. I believe worse times are ahead.
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In important matters (like the Lamb of God theme) God develops the ideas with actually events and leaves us with concrete examples of what the final fulfillment might be. His warnings are not only words but actual events.
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I couldn’t agree more. I think we can understand the destruction of the Western Empire in that way: corruption leads to judgment, but judgment is followed by renewal. The medieval period can be understood as a struggle between the free market forces represented by the merchants and scholars and the totalitarian forces represented by kings, soldiers, and feudal lords.
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Indeed and the Sacrament of the Eucharist can see a steady development (seven or more models being developed in scripture) to the final fulfillment. It must have been important to have been repeated and taught incrementally over such a long period of human history.
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One way of understanding the Eucharist that I find useful is that it is symbolic of the covenant between God and the individual, marking their entrance into and participation in the covenant community (which I understand now is behind the “first communion” rite in liturgical churches). Other religions don’t practice the Eucharist – they are not part of God’s covenant community; their rites are foreign.
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There is much to it. I tried to reproduce (but never finished it) the various models of the Lamb of God theme on my website. If you search for Lamb of God Theme you can find them. I find them fascinating. It was taken from a series of Lenten Lectures my old mentor Msgr. Hamburger developed over a great number of years. So I helped him put it all together in a small booklet.
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Incidentally, I would like to see an expansion of Catholic charitable monasteries and nunneries in the UK. I believe the loss of these institutions under Henry VIII did great harm to the social fabric of this country. There is a Catholic monastery and private boarding school not too far from me, but supporting the aristocracy is not equivalent to supporting the very poor / homeless and the physically and mentally ill.
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We have lost many of these since Vatican II all around the world. A great shame. Our nuns were especially hit hard and they were primarily the teachers of the faith to our children and they were some of the best nurses on the planet.
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Too much government now regardless of Thoughts on Vatican II. If monasteries tried to provide orphanages, medical facilities, places for the marginalized they’d be forced to accept secular ideology or be shit down.
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That is true.
Everyplace the government get involved they literally take control of and those who used to once took care of these things either play by government rules or they don’t play at all.
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It’s a mark of shame on Britain that Italy, and the Pope as well, are having to try to be white knights to save poor Alfie. I doubt it makes much difference really, although it pleases me that they did. In the last analysis, it will be like our issuing a green card to Charlie Gard. The Stalinist NHS will kill him and bury their incompetence, without consequence.
Unlike Canada, where people needing real medical help now, can come to the US, Britain is an island. Usually, a good thing, but not in these cases, of which there will be more.
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I think we let a curse fall on us when we permitted widespread abortion in this country. No government should have been able to do that and simultaneously claim it was the Queen’s servant. A servant knows what his master wants and believes.
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But there is this, from MSN:
“METRO – Doctors have been left ‘gobsmacked’ after Alfie Evans’ life-support was withdrawn but he continued to live, his father has said.
Tom Evans said it was obvious that the youngster was breathing unassisted ‘within a few minutes’ of life-support being withdrawn on Monday night.
Earlier, a High Court judge had dismissed a ‘last-ditch appeal’ by Mr Evans and Alfie’s mother, Kate James, to be given more time to mount a further challenge to a decision to end the 23-month-old’s treatment.
Speaking outside Alder Hey Children’s Hospital in Liverpool on Tuesday morning, his father said Alfie’s life-support should be reinstated due to his remarkable progress.”
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But hey, look on the bright side, Britain is such a nice place. Why you can spend 8 months in jail for flipping off a traffic camera in North Yorkshire.
Far better to groom little girls, if they survive the medical care.
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This is relevant to this conversation:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/02/29/the-mark-of-the-beast-explained-mv-pq-with-totalitarian-control-of-velocity/
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Some experience here. I worked for the Treasury Dept. as a National Bank Examiner for a while just out of college. At that time banks could invest in bonds but not stocks. The two were separated because of the depression of the 1930’s. I think it was during the 1990’s that this restriction was removed. Since that time banks have been allowed to not only invest in stocks et al. but also leverage that investment greatly. Knowledge of bonds helped the banks profitability and allowed them to provide banking services to the general public fee free. Stock investment now allows for speculation and greatly expanded profitability, but also puts them at risk of insolvency almost on a daily basis. Since the Fed used massive amount of $ to add liquidity to the large banks during 2008-2009, the banks are expecting this help again, if needed.
IMHO what needs to be done now to the banking system is this. Restrict investment of banks again to just bonds. AND break up the “too big to fail” banks. Basically, making them regional (limit them to 2 states of operation) or large local institutions again. Just like with the break up of AT&T, the innovation would soar.
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Where would all the Federal Reserve folks come from if Goldman Sachs went away? They seem to have some ungodly hold on the US govt. and I’m not sure what it is for good reason; the Federal Reserve won’t even show their books to Congress or the President. So much for transparency as regards our banks and our government finances.
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My focus with my history degree is the Federalist Age of American History. I really enjoyed the formation of the First National Bank. It’s a bit complex but overall in basic economics there is only so much gold/silver in the world. The idea is that to grow wealth one would have to have a source that can in fact never max out. In the realm of fiat money source, the idea is debt is good, as Hamilton asserted it to be a “blessing.” A fiat currency can also put “labor” into a spendable currency to help growth wealth. To be honest, without this style of banking system, which is Anglophile in its original, our modern world, the middle class with the world population would be most likely impossible.
Of course, I’m not saying there isn’t bad things about the system or that the system is anything like the Hamiltonian system. In fact, Andrew Jackson had good reason to end the corruption with the Second National Bank but what replaced it was a system with little to no over site.
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Of course one can always value the gold at a growing price per ounce as the amount of the fiat currency grows but taking all that gold out of circulation becomes a problem since gold is also used for other things than simply jewelry and such. As I said in a previous comment at some point we might be backing our currency with a gallon of purified water.
Debt is fine unless the government cannot pay it back with interest and the interest exceeds our GDP . . . which we are quickly approaching. If the economy does not grow us out of this debt our currency will not survive. I think that the future is likely to be a series of zeros and ones on computers and it will have no connection to the fungible proxy for work already done. We are passing on this debt to our children and grandchildren and have mortgaged their future. It is not only bad economics it is also immoral.
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“We are passing on this debt to our children and grandchildren and have mortgaged their future. It is not only bad economics it is also immoral.”
Completely agree…but we have fought that battle and lost. The debt will be restructured, reduced, written off, or just forgiven. We started with greatly increased personal bankruptcies in the early 80’s, then with Chapter 11 for the corporations, this has moved into cities and counties, and I see coming to states (CA, IL, and NJ). And don’t forget how Obama commandeered the whole judicial system (who I was certain would remind him of the rule of law) to structure the auto industry to his liking. Watching closely while Reagan was in office, congress went along will military increases but also increases in social programs, and the debt soared. G.W. Bush came along and the same thing happened. Trump has followed suit, with 2 Trillion added in 15 months. You are correct, if GDP doesn’t soar, we are toast.
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Not only did we increase all this social services spending (which comes from the bottom line of our GDP) we were giving out unsecured loans like candy to anyone who wanted one. I’m not entirely sure that we have closed that barn door entirely and that is what created those derivative packages that were junk being sold around the world. It was a scam and I don’t see any reason why they should stop if they are still thinking that they are too big to fail and will be bailed out by the Feds with the people’s money.
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You are again correct. The “too big to fail’s” only care about interest income. They realize some of the principle will never be paid but are willing to restructure in such a way that the interest payments continue. To at Greece! So we need to get banks back to receiving interest payments and only investing in bonds, which greatly reduces their income, which makes them look more closely at money they create and at the loans they give out instead of looking to make a killing in the stock market et al.
Now investment banks are different. Goldman Sacks has to have the money before they can invest it. They don’t just add it to both sides of the ledger as banks do. When they underwrite a stock or bond they charge a fee and go to the market to sell it at the market.
The Federal Reserve is the real bugaboo. They have added about 5 Trillion to their balance sheet in the last 10 years. They should be gone tomorrow, but in a perfect world I would not need to worry about you moving to Tampa!
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Not so sure about bonds since the Obama and Corzine debacles. They broke all the rules. Bond holders seemingly have no rights and those who break the rules do not go to jail.
Sadly, Tampa resides in this same imperfect world. I’ll die of boredom before I ever set foot in Florida. Sweet dreams of eating fresh seafood will just remain that; sweet dreams.
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