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Podcast: Communio w/ Philip Augustine: On Biblical Charity
01 Wednesday Nov 2017
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It says the video is unavailable.
Phillip, I have to get to Mass at 12:00 noon. I will check back when I get back to see if you have got it up and running yet.
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Strange, it plays on my site, anyone else having the problem?
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I think it was set to private. I clicked public. It should play now.
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It does. Sadly, I have to get going. Will look at it later.
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Hey Philip,
“God is the cosigner.” “How much faith do I have to have?” Loved those two points.
I have never given to get and this is my reason why. (One thing I was raised that way.) I have said this for years. “God is not a tit-for-tat-God.” I do not do “this” and God is going to do “that.” This does not mean however, that we do not receive blessings from God when we give. That is because of His Word to us, and not our greed.
One cannot call themselves a Christian and set on the “couch,” and say, “I have faith and that is all I need to get to heaven.” Mt. 25 is a great example of that.
This is what gets me about those who do believe this “doctrine.” Over and over in the Bible throughout the OT into the NT, it is said by, “God and Jesus,” “We are going to be judged according to our “DEEDS.” Our deeds are going to be the determining factor if we go to heaven or hell.
When Jesus was saying regarding “separating the sheep from the goats,” He never said one single, solitary word that what is going to make the difference if one is a “sheep’ or “goat” is going to be due to one’s “faith.” It is going to be according to one’s “works.”
Paul says, “To WORK out our own salvation with fear and trembling.” That right there goes to prove even regarding our salvation some sort of “work” has to come into play. Believe it or not, faith in and of itself is a “work.”
I did not just wake up one morning and believe in Jesus. Throughout my life I have had many questions and doubts.
Let life hit me really, really hard, and I have to “work” to have the faith that God is going to carry me through it. I have to work at knowing He has not abandoned me. If that makes me less of a Christian so be it. I do not know anyone who has not had those same feelings at one time or the other.
“Salvation” to me is an ongoing process not a one time event. Charity is part of that salvation.
As far as the video. I did enjoy it, but had to come back to it about five times to make it through it. One is I have an attention span of a gnat. (Not your fault) The other is what goes on during the day that I cannot sit and listen to it all at one time. Maybe shorten it a little would be helpful.
I am just glad you are still a Catholic. Have been praying for you much. God Bless, SR
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I loved Anderson’s point on God being the cosigner for the loan we give out to the poor. To the young rich man, Christ says, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” (Mt. 19:21) We can, in effect, loan our money to the poor, sure they can repay us, but what better reward can we receive than from our Lord.
Here is a link to the book:
If any want to skip ahead the topic of Charity starts at 17:31.
Also, note, that I plan to edit out more of the pauses in the future and get the time down a bit. However, being the first one, I hit every single technical difficulty this morning. In fact, putting it on youtube was a last ditch effort.
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Thanks so much for the info. Will be sure to get. I also want to relay another story Philip about the “repayment” from the poor.
Last year on the Christmas tree at Church I drew a child’s name and I think the age was 5. All those parents had put on the card was a blanket for that child. That broke my heart.
I could not imagine a child of 5 only getting a blanket, but I understood that was the “need.”
Of course I got the child and entire family blankets and the child toys. (Not tooting my horn here)
The point is, if someone cannot afford a 10.00 blanket for a five year old child, can they “pay us back?” Another point is, when I saw the “need” for a blanket I knew this family had other needs as well. That is why I wrote what I did in the situation.
Just because we may take care of what one is asking for we must have the “compassion” to see what else someone is in want for.
Often times we do something then walk away. Poor is poor. Just because one gives a blanket does not mean they do not need a heater. God Bless, SR
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Furthermore, about being Catholic, I am reminded of John chapter 6:
“67 Jesus said to the Twelve, “Will you also go away?” 68 ¶ Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;”
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In my struggles those are exactly the words I heard as well. There is no other place to go Philip, though the devil would love nothing better. God Bless, SR
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Your words remind me of my excitement and hunger when I realized that the Church really possessed and taught the truth of Jesus Christ. Words of eternal life, indeed.
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How come this “church” cant get its priests to do what they teach?
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In what way?
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Oh , you know, the usual……priests shouldn’t be lovers of the same sex…little things like that.
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Abuse by priests happens at about the same rate as abuse by people in positions of authority anywhere. Maybe even less. It is certainly regrettable it would happen at all, but it isn’t surprising to find that priests are sinners, some even terrible ones. I don’t know where the Catholic Church has said that priests can’t fall. My understanding is that it teaches that everyone can fall, even popes, except in regards to teaching doctrine and morals. And quiavideruntoculi is right, there is a big difference between proclaiming the gospel in dicey neighborhoods and proclaiming it to the point of torture and death.
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You can’t force people to live upright lives, Bosco.
Many Catholic missionaries have risked life and limb, and many been made martyrs, to convert unbaptised nations to the Truth of Christ. And they did it without making spelling mistakes and casting calumny about the place. Were these priests morally wanting in your eyes, O armchair critic?
It was a Catholic armada, under Don Juan of Austria, that preserved your ancestors from domination by the Ottoman Turk.
The worst thing in the world is a bad priest. The best thing is a good priest.
Protestantism always was a weak, dilute substitute for the real thing. Protestants could never make anything as beautiful as the Mass, or – for that matter – sin as colourfully as the Borgias.
Dry. Hollow, Cracked. Shallow.
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Oh yes, the mass is beautiful. Everything for the eyes. Nothing for the salvation of the soul. Only inviting Jesus in saves you.
Armchair critic. The first act I performed, after getting born again was….I was called out of my warm bed to go out in the field as a missionary. I took no clothes but what was on my back and no money. I was 16. I went all the way up to san Francisco. I slept in a bed every nite and had food every day. I lived by faith. Just as the apostles set out with no change of clothes and no money. Jesus had me live the life so that I could be able to witness with understanding, having done what Jesus and the apostles did…..live by faith. Of course I witnessed to lots of people. I was sent to these people. It was no mistake. Strangers took me in and heard my witness.
No, im hardly an armchair critic.
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Jesus is literally received in, by faith, in the Mass.
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Oh, one more thing….my garbage man doesn’t claim to be a little Christ or to have powers to forgive sins or the power to demand that god leave his throne and crawl into a golden cage for the amusement of the audience. So if he rapes little boys and sells drugs its not any big deal. But catholic priests are supposed to be all this and more. Its a claim the catholic church makes. If the priests are the vilest men to walk this planet, the claim is a lie. That makes the whole priesthood a lie. And you catholics , each and every man jack , believes a lie.
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Judas Iscariot was Jesus’ close companion. St Paul denied Him thrice. All the Apostles, bar St John the Divine, abandoned Him.
You are an armchair critic. Commendable though it may be to travel to San Francisco on a reduced diet (though I can’t quite see the point myself), it hardly compares to risking your skin in a strange land.
The countless Priest-Martyrs of the Church are an eternal rebuke to your empty lies.
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I wonder if anyone has noticed, that according to the catholic church, all the saints are catholic. Yet catholic holy men are the butts of jokes because of their widespread depravity. Well, im sure catholics don’t care.
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Sorry Phillip, but after Mass, I went out to eat and then my friend Steve came over for a long visit. However, let me say that I think this was a good 1st attempt at something like this. Some, hopefully, useful critiques might be more in order than trying to respond to your various news stories, Gospel reading and other thoughts and ideas that you tried to introduce.
I think you tried to do too much in a single podcast. I think that a shorter and more pointed single topic is more useful for interaction.
Also it would be helpful that the more salient ideas are mapped and printed with a time stamp that would allow the reader to go to that portion of the podcast and play it over again to perhaps to refer to a particular point. I don’t know how to do all these things but I did notice that other sites are able to list those beneath the podcast/youtube and it makes it easier to explore the details rather than to try to keep them all straight.
I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that without a moving graphic that ties in with subject lines that you will probably exceed the patience of today’s visitors who might bear with a podcast for 10 minutes or so and unless they are absorbed in the material they are not likely to go much beyond that allotted time.
Hope you don’t see this as a harsh criticism as it just an observation that I have noticed before. The Remnant “In the Catacombs” youtubes usually have a lot of video or graphic content to go along with the spoken words and it makes them come alive in a way that a lone voice cannot. It might even be better to have the camera on yourself as you speak to the folks. Just ideas and I have no idea of what I am talking about since I have never tried to even make a podcast or youtube video in the past. I am sure there is a large learning curve to overcome here.
Maybe some of these observations will be useful to you in the future but maybe not . . . so take them for what they are worth. Not much, since I don’t know how hard it is to do even rudimentary broadcasts much less more sophisticated works. But, the good news is that it is different and I think it can work and be engaging if the kinks are all worked out.
So here, here for a good start at this. I’m sure this has been a learning experience for you and that they will only get better as time goes on.
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That was supposed to be: “hear, hear”. Oh well.
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All Good points, I actually recorded two episodes and the one I recorded last night the file was corrupted from the podcast app I was using. So I gave it a try in Garage Band app this morning and when I went to convert to an audio file… well it failed. So I finally updated the app and got it converted but then it wouldn’t upload to the audio format on my wordpress. So, finally , I went to imovies, made a generic graphic an d created a video and uploaded it to YouTube.
It was indeed a learning process. But I have a mic on the way, so that should clear up the sound. I’m think about going to a 15 min topic podcasts and anything else I’ll do separately. It’ll be easier to change the pictures with a shorter video.
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I forgot to mention that my original mic failed last night too.
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You definitely had your share of troubles didn’t you?
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Sounds like a real learning experience. I remember the Youtubes that Reclaiming the Sacred used to make: they were really professional and I, to this day, have no idea how in the world she could do this. It must have taken months to learn how to do what she did. Seems very time consuming. And I thought writing a post took a lot of time! It seems it is nothing compared to everything you have to learn to put one of these together.
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Philip,
I want to ask you a question? I was thinking today about your statement, “How much faith is enough faith?” Mother Teresa said, “Have I done enough Lord?”
Then “How much work is enough?”
I need you to help me piece this together. Do we ever have enough faith? Do we ever do enough works? If Mother Teresa asked that question and the answer was “no,” I am sunk! 🙂 Thanks for your help. God Bless, SR
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SR, yes well…very few of us are called to the religious life. So we do the best we can in our own calling. My wife is beginning to need me as she ages gracefully. Maybe I was put on this earth to help her. Enough works, never, but maybe I can just squeak into purgatory.
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There you go, congratulating yourself for doing women’s work again! 🙂
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For those of you who don’t know, Steve is really speaking about the fact that he mopped the bathroom floor the other day. I doubt I’ll ever hear the end of it and he seems to think that this ‘work’ will get him into heaven eventually. Who knows? Maybe he’s right? 🙂
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Hey Steve,
Thanks for answer. I guess in situations such as yours that is how we must look at it. “This is the reason I am here.”
I took care of my Mom for five years with Alzheimer’s. Though it was very long, tiring, and many other things, I always knew I was here for that purpose at that moment. God Bless, SR
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A long answer, SR, and forgive me if it sounds a bit esoteric and mysterious . . . because I think it is. One thing that always bothered me about science is that if you ask enough why or how come questions you soon find that the sciences are as mysterious as religion is to many of the scientists. For instance we, and everythng is comprised of bundles of energy (lets simply concern ourselves with the atomic level at this point . . . electrons and protons for an example) and the seem to follow a set of cosmic rules and laws that we don’t understand. Why is one type of energy different to another or attracted to one type and yet repelled by another? Scientists cannot explain it except with more mysterious concepts that do not get down to the nitty gritty of what these bundles are and why they form bundles of energy in the first place. Now in that mix the entire cosmos has no moral content . . . it simply follows the rules and is helpless in determining its own behavior when confronted with other forces. We do not see conciousness or free will in an atom or universe that knows something of itself or contemplates its beginnings or endings to what happens to it. It just is. It just does what it does because the laws of physics apply to it and it has no choice nor does it seemingly care if it is combined to make something else or is destroyed in the process.
Now take works! What are works but moral choices? They are the gift of free will being exercised to a belief in a moral rule or order that was given us by God and written in our hearts. It is the exercise of this self will that determines if we are acting in a moral way that is in keeping with the faith or turning our backs on the Law Giver and satisfying another impulse; one of sloth, gluttony, lust, greed etc. All of life for us is a mystery of how to manage and live our lives in a moral universe that is governed by a rule of love and self-giving. If we did all we could to abide by these everyday decisions then we are saintly. If, as most of us live our lives, we at times make the right choice and at other times the wrong choice as the laws of God demand. So faith gives us the impetus to make the correct choices in life. And thereby our free choice decision gains us merit the harder, more difficult or even more sufferable choice which is in keeping with the faith. Therefore, our choices are constantly before us and there is no instant that we are not confronted with moral choices in this life. Only God can tell us if we have performed enough works of faith. For some it may be a choice confronted on one’s deathbed which is enough. For others their whole lives may have been a struggle and battle against the pull of God and the pull of that mystery of evil . . . the world, the flesh and the devil. So there is no answer to the question only God will decide what our lives meant to him . . . if we choose belief or disbelief or we chose adherence to the law or rebellion to law. For some it may deal only with the natural law written in our hearts and for other believers, every command given us by God. The more we know and believe, the more is required of the believer. It is why a Mother Teresa suffered doubts all her life: for she had great faith and with great faith comes greater care and a more sensitive soul that is always concerned that she could have fulfilled more for the God she loves and that somehow she has failed him. That is largely due to the fact that God is Perfection and Love Itself and that, try as we might, we cannot ever come close to rising to His desire for us; to be perfect even as my Father is perfect. So yes, one can never have performed enough works of faith and love.
I told you it was a long answer. 🙂
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Hey Scoop,
And you said “Philip’s video was long????” LOL!!! Just kidding I really do appreciate your heartfelt response. It explained very much to me.
To sum it all up to me, what you said is, “We have to get out here and do the best we can./Leave our failures up to God.”
I worry a lot as Mother Teresa, “Lord have I done enough?” To be truthful Scoop, sometimes it wears me out, as I have a hard time saying “no,” to anyone in need.
But you know there is a “natural order,” to things, which none of us understand. I have never really thought about that. In the “natural order” of things which concerns God, there is always “balance.”
This made me think of the Scripture, “God will place no more on us then we can stand.”
So I think what I have to do on this, is determine what is of God regarding my “works,” and what am I placing upon myself out of fear, that “I have not done enough.”
I think that is the “key” to all of it. If I am doing so much that I am dropping on my feet, and cannot take care of what my life is, that is too much. If I have balance and structure in it all, that is of God.
By the way, my sophomore teacher wrote in my yearbook, “You have an inquisitive mind, never cease to ask questions.” Each time I come to this blog, be it the blog or the comments, it always brings questions from me! 🙂
I love all of ya! God Bless, SR
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Honestly, I think it’s why instead of an either;or Faith or Works. It’s both;and.
I do the best that I can and my true faith is in God. We have to have faith in God’s judgment, as I told my wife, If God determines I deserve Hell then I deserve it.
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Philip, can you go into your spam and see if it is catching my comments. My comments are not showing up on any blog, yours included. Thanks. SR
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Everyone deserves hell.
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Hey Philip,
I love the way you put, “If God determines I deserve hell, then I deserve it.” That is the largest statement of faith, I have ever heard. I never once thought of that in my whole life.
That statement there brought me so close to God. God Bless, SR
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Philip, very good. Yes, a little long.
As you know, I am a convert to Catholicism. Ecumenism concerning Luther is anathema to me. Of course it’s always easier to believe less, read and learn less, worship less, and pay no attention to authority. Ann Barnhardt had a good post with some of Luther’s quotes. She sums up my opinion of Luther rather well. https://www.barnhardt.biz/2017/10/31/luther-october-31-arsh-2017/
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Scoop and Steve,
I did leave a comment to both of you but it did not go through. If this does I want to thank the both of you to take the time to help me. God Bless, SR
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This is going to fall on deaf ears, but the saved already know this;
Work out your salvation in fear and trembling
One has to have salvation in order to work it out. The catholic idea of salvation is that it comes in bits. So how does this religion handle the question of what happens if you die befor getting total salvation. Im just curious. I really don’t care.
When one is born again, one is changed, given a new spirit….not one tenth or two thirds a new spirit….one is given a total new spirit. That is you are saved in that instant.
Anyone who has a brain to think should question a religion that teaches salvation is given out in increments. Oh well, theres tons more even more suspect and anti Christ about the CC, and it doesn’t seem to bother its adherents.Thats why I said this is gonna fall on deaf ears.
Catholicism is a works religion. If youre not born again, all your good works profit nothing. They profit the person the good work was done to, on this earth. Remember the people going to hell that say to Jesus at the judgment….”haven’t we done good works and in thy name cast out demons”…Jesus says to them that he didn’t know them. They never opened the door to Christ.
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I don’t think I’m the best person to explain it, but I don’t think the Catholic idea is of incremental salvation. If there is anything that is incremental, it is in deepening our understanding and sanctity. Do you believe in instant sanctification?
I know it can seem strange to a certain sensibility, but the idea is not incremental salvation, but in remaining steadfast in the faith. If, once saved, we turn back towards our own passions and desires and commit mortal sin, we sever that saving relationship and need to restore it through sincere penance and repentance.
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Good brother theinfinit, I don’t know what you mean by sanctification.
God doesn’t take back being born again. You keep the new spirit you were given.
Your fellow Catholics have different stories about salvation.You claim it can come and go…your fellows claim its earned in stages, ….just about as many ideas as people. That comes from being in a religion. Nobody is sure of anything but everyone is sure of themselves.
I hear the Holy Father,no, not the real holy father, the imposter, is trying to let catholic priests get married. Hes trying to stem the tide of the homosexual avalanche that is the current state of affairs. If forbidding to marry is a doctrine of demons, that means the catholic priestcraft is a product of demons. And then people wonder why depravity is the norm inside the priestcraft.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctification
I had to look that up. 😀 I’ll go with what it says, that sanctification is the process of becoming holy, to becoming perfect like our Father is perfect.
I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you believe sanctification occurs concurrently with being ‘born again.’ Is that accurate?
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Its my understanding that once one is born again, that one now embarks on a journey to becoming more Christlike, or, sanctified, as you call it. Some are quick to shed the old ways, some take longer. But they are all saved in that instant. They can all see…..their eyes are opened. As soon as one is born again, that one becomes a King and a Priest in the kingdom of God. If you are catholic, which im assuming you are, you believe we must do things, penance, they call it. & sacrements and so forth. Jesus and the scriptures say that it is a gift, no works needed. Its in an instant. No classes need to be taken, no sites with great images need to be visited.
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I agree with almost all of that. I don’t agree that they say no works needed. Jesus and Scripture say one must repent and be baptized. None of the New Testament writers say, ‘don’t worry, you’ll never fall into old habits’ or ‘you’ve got nothing to worry about.’ They say, ‘stay true,’ ‘run the race.’ And ‘Deepen your understanding and sanctity.’
What are sacraments but the marriage of physical and spiritual things, just like the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross. Can a sacrament do anything who doesn’t believe rightly? Do Catholics teach that? No, even indulgences require repentance and true faith. Without, like the cross, they avail nothing.
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Also, I am not yet in full communion with the Church, but I hope to be.
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Youre not in full communion. But you hope to be.
Let me take a shot at this. You want to join the catholic church but you have to take a class and jump thru various hoops.
Jesus says his burden is light and his yoke is easy. Try asking Jesus to show himself to you.
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I took the class. No hoops. It’s up to me now.
What makes you assume I haven’t? Which brings up another point. What work do you bring before me, that I may know you? For you may know them by their works. Otherwise, I’m simply forced to take your word that you are in a qualitatively better spiritual state than me.
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I was given a new spirit. Im not better than you. Don’t take my word. Ask Jesus for yourself my brother.
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Well, I try to do that, by reading the scriptures. But it isn’t adding up for me. I just thought if you could point to something that would let me ‘test the spirit’ of your testimony, I could better evaluate your claims. I’m really impressed by what I’ve seen in the Catholic Church, so I wondered what you had to show.
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I have nothing to show you but a sad example of a Christian. I have never told anyone to believe me. I tell everyone that Jesus stands at your door and knocks. Open to him and he will sup with you. He will give you all the answers you want. I am a lowly servant, a messenger.
Your eyes are impressed by what you see in the catholic church. I was to when I was a teenager. But god reaches down into the plugged up toilet I was at the bottom of and pulled me out befor I fell for anything eles. I tried nishren shoshu, Khrisna, and Jimi Hendrix. I was looking, I guess. I even tried Protestantism. Christ reached down and pulled me up and gave me a new spirit. Ask him for this new spirit. He would be happy to meet you.
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I would say you have something to show. You are here, seemingly caring about the eternal destiny of others. In my estimation, you also possess a certain portion of humility. Only God can judge your true motives, but I will give you that.
In the Catholic Church, I see charity, feeding the poor, caring for the sick, the orphan, the widow. I see true love for the Church. I see growth and devotion to Christ. I also see many, many people doing just as you have said, asking Jesus to come into their hearts. They don’t do this only once, though, but they are continually renewing their minds and their faith. You say it is only once that this happens, but I haven’t seen much scriptural evidence for that. I just see a lot of exhortation to continue in the faith.
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To be sure, many catholic people are wonderful god fearing people and catholic charities are second to none. These charities are staffed by the people.
The priest will get up and exhort the flock to godliness, sure thing. Prot preachers do the same. But I got saved thru the efforts of an independent group that had some saved people in it…..not thru an organized church or religion. I sat down one on one with a girl who told me the same thing I tell the good people in this blog. For some reason it took hold of me and I was born again later that nite. I didn’t know it at the time. I thought it was LSD flashback or heartburn or something.
People philosophize about being born again, because they have no idea what its like. I wasn’t told I would be born again. The girl didn’t have a lot of time to lay it all on me. I didn’t know I was born again til many yrs later. I knew Jesus personally , I was kinda aware of that the next morning when I opened a bible, for the first time.
Your religion has substitutes for being saved. Do this and that…pray with your hands in some position…all kinds of stuff.
Its your choice. I thought I was good to go because I was in the choir. Religions tell their flock that they are gods people. That’s why people go to these churches, to hear how they will be in heaven, as long as they hang around this church. Its a lie, and you will wake up in hell if you die expecting some what ever to save you. Remember, Jesus spoke more of hell than he did heaven.
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I don’t doubt you had a true experience, nor do I think you should either. I just have to ask myself if it was a biblical experience. How do I differentiate it from my experience, or the experiences of other, other than to compare it to Scripture? Why do you call that philosophizing? How do you know your experience isn’t eventually leading you to the Catholic Church? How do we even know if it was divine or diabolical? And even if it was diabolical, how do we know God will not override it to bring you to the truth?
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I got confirmation on who it is that I met. You don’t have to worry about if its god or the devil that infests me. If I say things not in line with scripture, you can safely say I don’t know the Lord. For me its easy to tell if someone doesn’t know the Lord….”born again”
Born again folks all know the same person and can tell you the day and minute they were born again. But the born again all know the same person and they can talk about Jesus and both know its the same one.
Its easy for me. If someone goes on about god in a cracker or purgatory or mother Mary or scapulars, it should be obvious they don’t know the Lord. But there are good fakes out there, like the Seventh Dayers. They had me fooled for weeks befor I spotted a scam.
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I guess that gives me a better idea of where you’re coming from. I appreciate your answer.
It seems to me God in unleavened bread, refining as of being tested by fire, and Mary are mentioned in the Bible. I haven’t learned about scapulars yet, so I can’t say much about that. But if those other things are in the Bible, why do they tell you Catholics don’t know the Lord?
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Good job! I listened to most of this earlier (time constraints pulled me away) and intend to hear the rest. I thought several times of how difficult it would be for me to do what you were doing and admired the way you handled yourself. I hope you’ll be doing more!
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Thanks, I think it wise to shorten program and offer some pic themes in the next production. I just got a new microphone, so hopefully that improves sound quality.
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Visuals can be helpful when I’m watching YouTube on Xbox, but on my phone I just listen anyway. I didn’t think it was too long, I just happens to run out of time. Thanks again for doing it.
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Hey guys,
My comments have been going into spam and they have now adjusted what needed to be adjusted. I am seeing if this goes through. Please go into the spam on this blog as I have answered your comments, and approve them. God Bless, SR
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Here I am again trying to see if this comment goes through. Again, my comments are going into spam. Could you please check and okay me? They are supposed to be working on it, and I have responded to your comments. God Bless, SR
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Hey Guys,
I am hoping this goes through. I have responded to your helpful comments but spam has been picking them all up. They were supposed to get it fixed today and I think they did. Could you go into spam and post my comments? Thanks and God Bless, SR
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Good brother theinfinite, ill answer you down here. I don’t have time to give a good answer. Im rushing to go out to store. Im getting a ride because my car is down for the count.
Either you are young or you are just fooling with me. Yes Mary is in the bible and that’s not why I know if someone doesn’t know the Lord.If people tow the catholic fairy tale that Mary is the queen of heaven and earth, that means the truth isn’t in them. If someone believes men can pay for their own sins in some fantasy purgatory, the truth isn’t in them. I don’t know everything, but I know Jesus paid for all my sins. That disgusting filthy catholic church says Jesus sacrifice wasn’t enough, that we need more cleansing. heres my advice to you….don’t join that filthy liar of a cult the CC.
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I didn’t see your remarks in my notifications. I’m glad I looked on a whim and found them. I am forty years old. I don’t think I’m fooling with you, or at least I don’t mean to be. I am trying to let establish your case as well as you can. I sincerely believe the truth must bear itself out, including considering whether or not I might be wrong and you might be right. So I am listening to what you’re saying and evaluating if it makes sense to me. If it doesn’t, I do us both a courtesy by saying so. I wanted to know specifically why you say what you say, in order to evaluate it for myself. I wanted to know if you could establish what you were saying biblically and scripturally, or if it was more from a feeling you have inside yourself. As I am a former Protestant and well versed in traditional attitudes towards Catholicism, a lot of the things you say have an initial resonance with me. But I don’t check those things against a feeling I have in myself, but against reason and Scripture.
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“Heartburn Bosco!” You just made my day! LOL! Only you dear friend, only you! God Bless, SR
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good brother theinfinite, check everything I say with scripture. Don’t take my word for it. Since its hard for me to put a thread up in here, because the powers to be have their nose up the Holy Fathers pooper, ill cut and paste what a devout catholic said to me today…………
“Anthony Hulse30 minutes ago (edited)Highlighted reply
Heretical bibles – I gave you one example. The KJV is heretical. ”
Now this loyal catholic has been told the KJV is heretical. Ill be willing to be he cant provide a passage that is heretical. He just parrots what his pedophile priests of Dagon say to try to discredit protantistism, Catholics are taught to hate protestant stuff just because. It helps to keep catholics believing that their graven images are OK with god. Prots don’t bow themselves befor graven images, so they must be wrong, or invalid. Bowing befor wood and stone is the best thing catholics can do,…according to their religion. So they must discredit prots so as to justify their rampant idolatry. All the while telling their hellbound flock that the KJV is heretical, because it condemns idolatry.
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