For those who find the news a gloomy place, especially the religious news, there is something to cheer with the number of Corpus Christi processions in it. When I was a child, these were an annual event, and I can remember watching them, with some puzzlement, as I had no idea what they were about, but also with a sense that here was a group of happy children and their parents and priests saying something important in public; colourful and buzzing with excitement, it added a splash of colour to a fairly drab inner-city environment still pock-marked by bomb-sites and rubble. My father, who liked neither the Irish (most of the Catholics there were of Irish stock) nor Christianity, thought the whole thing lamentable – not that he used that word. His attitude was not atypical among English people. My mother, who was a Methodist, thought the whole thing smacked of ‘idolatry’. Oddly, given the origins of Methodism, she thought religion was something best kept indoors, and for your ‘Sunday best’. I came away with the impression that ‘that sort of thing’ was the ‘sort of thing’ the ‘Irish’ did; as they were regarded with some prejudice by their English neighbours, that was no recommendation.
Then such processions, as with other forms of public witness, largely vanished. I recall asking a priest at University why, and he said it was ‘all to do with ecumenism’, explaining (to the last person who needed it) that ‘Protestants’ regarded such things as idolatry, and ‘Mary worship’, and so it was thought best to desist from such things. It was certainly true that that was how Protestant England regarded such things. As I discovered in my studies, there was a long history of that sort of thing. It is often hard to trace the beginning of any historical trend, but in this instance it was very easy – Henry VIII’s break with Rome (link to Diarmaid MacCulloch’s radio programme on this subject). From that time on, the English State, with the brief exception of Mary I’s reign, encouraged the destruction of statues and imagery. Three hundred and fifty years of that sort of thing, combined with a sense of English superiority over the Catholic Irish, more than explained what I experienced as a child.
But before that, in any English village or town, one would have seen many signs of popular devotion, including Corpus Christ processions and public veneration of images of the Blessed Virgin. It was a sign of the mark left on English culture that even nineteenth century English Catholics should have found the expressions of popular piety they saw in places like Italy too much to take; their Catholicism was under-stated and private – for reasons to obvious to need stating. But there, as in Ireland, popular piety had never been suppressed by the State, and there, one could still see what one would once have seen in England.
As I grew up on Merseyside, where, especially in the inner city parts where I lived, the Irish influence was strong, we were getting a taste of that Irish culture. It was one where tangible evidence was important, and where the Church was a community. Christ was present in the bread and wine, so it mattered how those elements were treated; the Saints were our friends in heaven, and so pictures of them were like family pictures – it was nice to see those who were praying to God for you. It was perhaps a sign of the insufferable smug sense of intellectual superiority of the iconoclast philistines, that they should have imagined that other people were more stupid than themselves, and that those others did not realise the pictures were not ‘real representations’. The Catholic world-view was one where the Divine was not in some other world, or purely in spiritual form, but where one encountered it in the daily round.
It was, I think, a shame that advocates of the ‘Spirit of Vatican II’ should have discouraged manifestations of popular piety – and it is a sign of the success of the new Evangelisation that it has survived such attempts. It is very sad that some Christians feel they have to make judgments about the way others worship, but a love of Jesus and his Mother and of the Saints will find a way to express itself – even among the buttoned-up English with their centuries of State brain-washing.
Ha! Well said! Here too, it was the Irish (and now the Hispanics). But then, we Americans inherited more than John Locke from England, and maybe especially Scotland.
But, I suspect it is more a Northern European thing. Throughout most of the lands where Protestantism established itself (and yes, it is a drearier, less colorful life) than the Catholic lands. The stiff upper lips prevails, although I suspect the English (and maybe Americans) are the model of such things, for good or bad.
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If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck and quacks like a duck……its a duck.
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If it writes like a clown, has clownish opinions and behaves like a clown, it’s a clown.
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C, way to go! 🙂 🙂
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If it looks like an idol, bows down to it and prays to it than he’s an idolater.
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If the person making that judgment is a bigoted Protestant, then if it thinks like a bigot and acts like a bigot, not only is it a bigot, but its opinion is actually a prejudice. Like Bosco, you are reduced to insisting that because you, personally, think something, it must be so. For nearly two thousand years most Christians have not agreed with you, and most do not agree with you today. As arguments go ‘it is so because I say so’, it is not very good.
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You tell me where have I lied. I can show you countless of pictures of Catholics bowing down to idols. You are just like the “leftist” When confronted with the truth all you can say is “bigot.” That is sorry. I sir have plenty of proof.
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You make the common mistake of the ill-informed. When I bow to the Queen, I am not worshipping her. When a Catholic bows to Mary he is not worshipping her. The reason you are a bigot is that you refuse to accept an explanation from someone who knows what he is talking about, and like so many Trumpists prefer alt-truth to the facts.
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I don’t accept the RCC explanation because it is anti-biblical, that’s why. You are lying to yourself and your hearers. You do worship the Queen of Heaven.
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No, it is only that in your imagination. And I know who I worship. The very definition of bigotry is thinking you know better than someone else what they believe.
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Man, you are truly blind, WOW! If you bow down to someone other than Christ according to holy scripture it is WORSHIP.
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No, that is not what Scripture says. It forbids worshipping anyone but God. In the pagan world surrounding ancient Israel people bowed to false gods in the form of images, and that is what is being written about.
You’re a gas – you really think people bowing to the Queen are worshipping her – you should be doing stand up, you’d make a fortune as a comedian. As an evangelist, you’re a waste of space.
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The queen of heaven is a false god.
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I was talking about bowing to the Queen of England.
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There is a difference between bowing down to a human being and bowing down to someone that’s dead and believe that they can hear your prayers, making them a god
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So, you believe that those who died in Christ are dead in Heaven – go re-read your Bible. I believe that those who died with Christ are alive and raised again in Him.
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No, they are dead physically and the Bible prohibits prayer to the dead.
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So, you don’t believe the the physicality of the resurrected? Wow, you’re in a bad way.
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I’m sorry but your statement is nonsense. I said that the Bible condemns anyone to pray to a physically dead person instead of praying to God.
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Are you denying that when the dead in Christ rise, they rise bodily? Wo, you aren’t a Christian then.
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Of course not, all I’m saying is that the Bible condemns you to pray to the physical dead
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And I’m telling you that those who have died in Christ and are raised in Heaven are not dead and have a physicality. Which bit of that was hard for you to grasp?
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You are a deep error because the Bible clearly says not to pray to those who have died.
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Where does it say that those who died in Christ and are raised in Him are dead? They have been raised, they are alive, as you hope to be – unless, of course, you believe heaven is limited by considerations of time and space?
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Praying to the dead according Deut 18 is witchcraft and prohibited.
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A) We do not pray to them, we ask them to pray for us; B) those who are alive in Christ are not dead. Those two points apart, you got it all right; oh, hang on, they were your only two points 🙂 Keep ’em coming, funny guy.
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This is getting ridiculous that you can’t even know that asking is praying. I will show you in the Bible, okay.
Matthew 7:7-11
7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!
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Ask here is directed at God. Have you never asked a friend to pray for you? That is what we do with the saints. Which part of that is hard for you to understand? Perhaps you have never asked a friend to pray for you to God? If so, that’s sad.
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Please notice….good brother Chalcedon keeps saying over and over again that the dead in Christ are alive. Ok, we know this. They are not in heaven, as good brother says. he claims to be such a bible scholar but doesn’t know they are in paradise, not heaven. Hes blinded by Semiramis, his goddess. He cant produce where Jesus or anyone says that we can communicate with the dead(in Christ or anything), but Jesus does say there is an unpassable gulf. But the catholics are forced to make up stuff to justify their witchcraft. Sad, because its not their fault. But they are the ones who will wake up in hell if they don’t go to the Rock from which they are hewen. Semiramis isn’t going to save them at the hr of their death.
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And how does that make them dead, as your spanish friend claims?
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He knows they are alive in Christ in paradise. They died here on earth and for us they are dead.Gone. he just says its wrong to pray to them. Its wrong if you know better. It is a stumbling block to a relation with the living Christ. When you pray to dead people, you are talking to yourself. Heck, most people are going to destruction. but still, I have to warn them. Your choice. dead people or the risen Lord.
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Please say where it says we are not to ask those who are alive in Christ in Paradise to pray for us. You do know, don’t you, we don’t pray to them, we ask them to pray for us. If you had any friends, you might ask them to pray for you, and you might pray for them.
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Who cares what I think?
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Sign in and become a member. Glad to have you. Sit back and relax and enjoy the show.
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Hey Basco, check out what I wrote today.
https://spiritualminefield.wordpress.com/2017/06/23/catholics-believe-the-book-of-james-teaches-that-works-is-necessary-for-salvation/
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Try some real facts as opposed to your alt ones:
https://www.catholic.com/index.php/qa/why-does-the-church-teach-that-works-can-obtain-salvation
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Try loving Jesus and only worshiping him.
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I’ve been doing both for longer than you’ve been a Christian. Do you have any more ludicrous alt-facts to amuse me with? It’s a quiet late afternoon here and I could so with a laugh.
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Yes, I know, you have been an idolater longer than me, that’s for sure since I’m not one.
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You know no such thing – that is simply another lie. As a matter of fact I don’t bow to statues of Mary – we have none in my Church. You crack me up – keep ’em coming.
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Of course is a lie to you because you love the lie rather than the truth
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No, it is a lie because it is not the truth. You make dialogue impossible. If I said to you I didn’t believe you were a Christian and you said you were and I called you a liar, how would that work for you?
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For that statement to work you would need proof which I have proof of the Catholics bowing down in worship to Mary your god
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No, you would need proof that bowing is worship, which it is not. You’d also need to prove I have bowed and worshipped a statue, which I haven’t – those crucial facts apart, you’re onto something – the wrong end of every argument. You’re making me laugh a lot. By the way, have you moderated my comment on yout site yet?
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The bible is proof and declares that bowing down and kissing the feet of a statue like the Catholics do in church is worship.
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The Church is clear, so is Scripture, you worship the Lord God alone. If you think bowing is worship, that is your problem.
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You mean the false church is clear, right? That’s pure contradiction.
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No, you belong to a false Church, unknown before your own lifetime and having no connection with the one founded by Jesus. You seem not even to believe that the dead in Christ tise again physically, as Christ did.
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You mean your false Jesus, not the Biblical one, right? I follow the Jesus of the Bible and bow down to Him alone but you Catholics worship your false god Mary
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Thanks good brother Spaniard, I read you wonderful article. It is typical of false religion to say the bible isn’t enough.
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In other words it confirms your prejudice. Now here’s a challenge, this is what the Catholic Church teaches, tell us all point by point where it is wrong – your spanish friend has not yet had the guts to allow this comment on his site:
https://www.catholic.com/index.php/qa/why-does-the-church-teach-that-works-can-obtain-salvation
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I read your article and ive read a million just like it. You forget I was in catholic answers for a while. Ive seen all the excuses. So all these indulgences that require one to go somewhere and do something don’t count? Plenary indulgences, do this or that and get time off of purgatory, or if one saves up enough indulgences one can skip purgatory altogether. Not that there is a purgatory, but this is preaching works, even though the practicing cathol will wake up in hell, none of it really matters.The CC is still selling get out of purgatory tickets. I saw one at my girlfriends house. Yes, with my own eyes. It was a price list. 1000 dollars got cousin Lefty the bank robber out of purgatory.Novena Mass it was called.
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I asked you to tell me where the article was wrong, not to say it was wrong. You have not addressed one word of the article, you have gone straight to your script. I am beginning to think you are a bot – now either tell us all, or infallible one, exactly where the article is going wrong, or admit you are too stupid to do so. You really are very clownish today. Do you understand the concept of discussion? You don’t just say “I’m right’ to everything, you explain why. Not once in five years have you managed that – you are a bot, aren’t you?
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My god, I just explain where it was a pack of lies. The article claims the CC doesn’t push works salvation, which is a lie. It sells heaven. The CC can say this and that, but all one has to do is look at what it does. You want me to read all these bright flowing wonderful claims made by your church, and get upset if I don’t believe every word.
Like Jesus said…..ye shall know them by what they say about themselves.
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No, you didn’t. It explained we don’t push works salvation, quite the opposite. I am beginning to think you can’t read. All I want is you to engage with the argument – and by what you say about yourself you reveal an addiction to lies and bigotry. As a witness to Christ you are a total failure. Not one person here in 5 years has thought you right, and a minority here are Catholics. You don’t get it, do you, you are seen as a troll, a bigot and yes, a clown.
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yes, the wonderful article explained it away. But what do we see in reality? The pope granting plenary indulgences.
You know, I don’t really care about what the CC or any religion says. Now and then I point out how they twist scripture, hoping to shed light to help the person see what his religion really is……a bunch of nothing. One needs to open the door to Christ and invite him in. You wont find the CC preaching this little fact. im just a watchman. I sound the alarm.
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It told you why you and your chum have got it wrong – try being honest. The only one twisting Scripture is you, because you read it by the light of an unusually narrow mind. You are a watchman only for stupidity. No sane person would be drawn to Jesus by your appallingly poor example.
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hey, no need to rub in the fact that im a poor example.
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Hey, good brother Spaniard, go on and approve good brother Chalcrdons comment in your site. He thinks youre scared of it. On my scardycat site moderation is turned off. One can say anything one wants.
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Puritanism has left a powerful legacy. Although the current malaise cries out for strong leadership, I would not wish for Cromwell’s suppression of mirth. It’s hard to believe that Christians should be against laughter, but I’m afraid that trend goes right back to the Fathers. It didn’t take long for the believing community to forget Jesus’ message about children. You can see the results of such suppression in the seemingly inexplicable Victorian fascination with “silly” and “sentimental” things – elves, fairies, children in sailor costumes, etc.
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Out here in the southeastern US, where Baptists and evangelicals dominate the Christian landscape, the same obnoxious iconoclastic opinions remain strong. Also like NEO said, a certain level of smug prejudice against Hispanic Catholics from the white Protestants.
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They do out here in Luther land too, to an extent. Prejudice might be a bit of an overstatement, but “not our kind, dear” can certainly be heard. But I grew up in a town divided between Methodist, Lutheran (and the Prussian variant; E&R) and Catholic) and the Catholics weren’t noticeably more demonstrative than anybody else (although some of the Methodists were). People tend to be people, I guess.
I think Nick overstates a bit about the Puritans though, most of what I’ve read recently said that while they were certainly iconoclastic, they were hardly humorless. Some say Old Noll had a right good sense of humour.
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And of course now, (drum roll please), In Pope Francis we have the “Spirit of Vatican II’s” SUPERHERO! Suppression of the Extraordinary Form, Church teachings, expressions of piety, and rigidity. Elevation of any protestant, socialist, and communist thought, Islam as a religion of peace, and last but not least the supreme reign of your own unique conscience. SUPERHERO is quickly doing away with any reason for the existence of the Holy Catholic Church.
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Good luck with your religions. You deserve what ever you get.
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Good luck with your personal religion – you will deserve what you get
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Why is it so many people see the same things as I do?
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Let’s see, Christian Catholics, 2 billion, Boscoites how many? I wouldn’t use the number argument were I you.
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Broad is the road to destruction and many there be on it.
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So what was your point that many thought like you?
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My point was….that you say im my own religion.
Seems that there are others in my religion. I bought myself a big fish hat and a big shiney robe. I want you to kiss my ring and send me money.
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I do indeed, because you, like so many in your image, elect themselves as the sole judge of what the Bible means. You make yourself an idol and you bow to yourself. You have the arrogance to claim that you, and you alone, know how to read the book the Church was entrusted with, and then the gall to criticise the Church.
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I read the bible one word after another. How do cathols read it?
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With understanding.
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Oh, with understanding? Why didn’t you tell me this earlier? Geeze, all these yrs Ive been reading it wrong. Thanks ol buddy.
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You have, and you continue to. You rely on your own intellect and neglect the wisdom of the millions of Christians who have also read the Bible. You are like a man insisting that beans are the only food because it is the only food in your larder and you have no access to a supermarket. You have been taught that the supermarket is a bad place, so beans are fine – it explains the hot air.
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Im told all the time by my catholic friends that everything we need to know isn’t in my KJV. Ive asked….well, where is the rest of the info? What is the book called.
I get no concrete answer.
I just now stumbled on to whats called the Youcat Bible. In the preface, the Holy Father Bergoglio says that this book is gods word.
Actually, most is just catholic propaganda with snipets of bible verses here and there.
I wonder why my catholic friends never mentioned this book. It has numerous errors, as catholics call them. What they are are outright lies concocted by the Father of Lies.
This book is recommended to the youth.It says the real bible has errors and it also says same sex attraction can be used as a springboard to get to God. There are other things also. Im sure its one big falsehooh from cover to cover…..that’s why no one told me about it. they don’t want to hear me yelling about its antichrist teachings. I don’t blame them.
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Oddly, Bosco, I don’t accept your version of the Youth Catechism.
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Hi Bosco, Can you please supply a link for the following that you said: “In the preface, the Holy Father Bergoglio says that this book is gods word.” I have found an online source where Pope francis says the CC is “the memory of God” which is quite different from saying it is God’s word. Here is my link to what I found, please do supply us all with a link to your information, either directly from the book or from whatever source you got this information. Really, if the pope says the CC is God’s word than you owe it to us to show your sources so we know. Thanks.
http://protectthepope.com/?p=8489
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Good sister Celia, I said that the Holy Father wrote in a preface to the book Youcat that this book is gods word.Ill see if I can find it again.
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I cant find the link to where it said the Holy father called the Youcat the word of god. Download the Youcat and read it. I cant do that. My computer somehow wont let me open it, or, I don’t know how to open it. But just keep in mind that I don’t make this up. if I said I saw it or read it, I did. the Mary worshipers always call me a liar, but consider the source. A bunch of papists that bow befor images of Semiramis and Tammuz. Everything I say you can take to the bank.
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I found it as I was getting ready to click out of the lying satanic catholic butt kiss sites.
“So you have something divine in your hands: a book like fire! A book through which God speaks. So notice: The Bible is not meant to be placed on a shelf, but to be in your hands, to read often—every day, both on your own and together with others. You do sports together or go shopping together. Why not read the Bible together as well—two, three, or four of you? In nature, in the woods, on the beach, at night in the glow of a few candles … you will have a great experience!”
http://youcat.org/bible/
It calls the Youcat the bible. Im glad god made hell.
POPE FRANCIS in the foreword
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Thanks for the link Bosco, I appreciate that you took the time to find it, but I’m confused. The page you linked to with that quote is actually about a youth bible with a red cover. The YouCat has a yellow cover.
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I don’t know nothing about the color of the thing. Does the color of the cover matter when the book is a guide for remaining unsaved and the reader wakes up in hell?
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Bosco, as I have just shown you, the reference the Pope makes is to the Bible – but of course your ignorant, bigoted and prejudiced spirit blinds you to that. Your script says Catholics do not care about the Bible. You keep being told we do, and all you can do is repeat the lies your lying spirit tells you to repeat. You are one of the clearest cases of possession I have ever come across – either that, or you are just stupid.
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OK forget the color of book covers. How about we just look at the title of the book you linked to. Or maybe book titles matter to you either, anything to press a point, eh? The pope was talking about the bible and not the cc. Anyone who goes to the link you provided will see that.
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As I pointed out to good brother Chalcedon, move your eyes to the left of the book of fire paragraph……good girl….now notice the Youcat book….it has the word BIBLE in big black plain as day letters. That is the bible the site is dedicated to selling, not the KJV. Are you following me on this?
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Read what it says at the top of the site: ‘If you want to make me happy, read the Bible- Pope Francis’ – surely even you can read that?
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The site is all about the Youcat Bible. I worry about you sometimes. But I can understand why you think its referring to the KJV, because taken at face value, it should be referring to theBIBLE, but its not. The whole site is about the YOUcat…is it not? Even you yourself tell me that the catechism trumps the bible.
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The ‘Youcat’ Bible is simply the Bible as part of the Youth catechism programme – you poor, illiterate buffoon. It is about reading the Bible with understanding – I recommend you join up and start.
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Follow this link – then apologise for wasting everyone’s time with your ridiculous bigotry:
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You misrepresented the meaning of the quote, plain and simple, squirm and squabble all you want, it is all here for everyone to see.
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I sent him a link to Amazon, where he can preview the Bible. He would benefit from reading it because it explains many of things he fails to get.
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This is an example of catholic church deception. Bait and switch. I couldn’t cut and paste from the amazon site inside the Youcat. You can go in there and see the preface which the Holy Father says he loves the Bible bible but recommends the Youcat bible to young people.
The CC has not intention of pushing the real bible on its flock. It never has befor. As a matter of fact, it burned you alive if you were caught with a bible. Don’t believe it when you see the catholic church singing the praises of Gods Word. It hates the bible.To save some face, the magnanimous catholic church, in 1963, just now took the bible off its list of banned books. Don’t be fooled by this wearing of sheeps clothing by this ravenous wolf.
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No, it’s an example of your dimness. Any one could have gone on the site and seen what I saw, You couldn’t be bothered, you thought you saw something you wanted to seem failed to check and ended up looking like a ninny.
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I have one question for you good brother….the amazon site you sent me….what book is it selling? Thanks in advance.
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The Bible – complete with good explanations of what it means. I’d recommend you buy it, you’d make less of a banana of yourself.
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Um, could you be a little more precise? Whos bible are they selling? What is it called?
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Talk is cheap. From the beginning the CC has only claims to sell. Claims of the afterlife, which cant be disproven, except in the light of scripture, which the CC nips in the bud by saying the bible isnr enough. The CC says humans must belong to it for salvation. Another bright claim. Forget the claims….look at how it behaves. Recent popes have had to spend lots of time apologizing for its atrocities. Even now the law suits are in the billions and climbing. Yeah, pay no attention to the priest behind the curtain raping the little boy….just pay attention to our claims.
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The beginning is Jesus founded it, so if you are saying Jesus was peddling fake salvation, best of luck. He said what the Apostles bound on earth would be bound in heaven, and that goes for their successors.
All you have to offer is stale, tired and repeated cliches. No one denies that there has been wrong-doing in the Church. Which part of ‘we are all sinners’ do you not get? You write as though sex abuse was confined to one church, or confined to churches. Again, you let your nasty bigotry show.
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Evil doers flock to prot religions as well, to have an easy source of fresh flesh. The protection Is better in the CC. Plus the CCs flock it taught from birth not to go against the priest. if he does something bad to you, just keep it to yourself. In the prot world, they don’t last too long.
The prot world doesn’t make the sweeping claims the CC does. Its just that the CC doesn’t live up to any of its claims. I use the word any, and I mean none of its claims have been realized. The best example of the big lie is that all catholic clergy are celibate. A little leaven leaveneth the whole loaf.
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Poor Bosco, were you born in the 1930s? You describe a world so far from what is true now that I do believe you are a very old clown. I know no Church which teaches what you claim – indeed, quite the opposite – one of the results of the abuse scandal is children are taught to report anyone, including a priest, who acts inappropriately.
The Church does not claim all clergy are celibate, it requires them to be – if they break their vow how is that the fault of the Church.
You bigotry is getting desperate if this is the level you are reduced to.
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Its obvious to people who know the bible that forbidding to marry is a doctrine of demons. Im sure you have some wonderful reason why its godly to forbid to marry. Everything the Lord tells us not to do, the catholic church makes it part of their religion. Well, that’s religions for you. Its sad to see educated people trying to say white is black and black is white. Like good brother Nicholas said, in this very site, that God commands us to make images. then he goes to his local Roman Coven and calls all the preverts Father, while shaking beads and repeating rote prayers.
I guess I am reading the bible wrong….because as I read it, the bible condemns these practices.
But, the unsaved will do anything. I know, because I was unsaved at one time. Now I see.
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Can you read at all – it is clearly a reference to the Bible – sheesh, your spirit is dim
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Ever since I got my brain back, im having trouble adjusting to having a brain in my head.
I can read now. The bible being referred to was the Youcat. That much is clear. You deny every single thing, which disqualifies your opinion as being the ragings of one who is hysterical.
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Let’s teach you to read:
“So you have something divine in your hands: a book like fire! [What book is this? The answer is in the next sentence, which I have put in bold] A book through which God speaks. So notice: The Bible is not meant to be placed on a shelf, but to be in your hands, to read often—every day, both on your own and together with others. You do sports together or go shopping together. Why not read the Bible together as well—two, three, or four of you? In nature, in the woods, on the beach, at night in the glow of a few candles … you will have a great experience!”
How even someone with your limited comprehension of English can read that as a reference to Youcat is explicable only by the huge beam in your eye.
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What is the subject of this site and what book of fire are they referring to? What book is being sold here?
You cant stand it when I point out suspect stuff about your religions doings.
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Learn to read. Quite plainly the Pope is talking about the Bible. What I can’t stand, Bosco, is ignorant prejudice. Anyone with a reading age of 5 can see what is being referred to. That you cannot marks you out as either very stupid or inhabited by a lying spirit. There is no third explanation.
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Sorry old bean, but why is that paragraph you quoted in the preface to the Youcat? Why would the Holy Father praise another book in the preface of the Youcat. Now here is what youre gonna do…..go back to that screen where the book of fire quote is……good boy….now look to the left…..there is a picture of the Youcat book….notice the word BIBLE in big black letters dead center of the book. The Youcat is called the Youcat Bible. Your senility is showing.
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“We recently received comments about theological problems with the Youcat that we believe are probably serious enough for us to quit carrying the book”
http://www.aquinasandmore.com/blog/theological-problems-with-the-youcat-may-force-us-to-discontinue-selling-it/
Even idolatrous liar Diana worshiping sites like this one was outraged enough about what was in this catholic bible that they want to stop selling it. Now that’s saying something.
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In his homily for Corpus Christi, where he led the annual procession in Cork, Archbishop Michael Neary, Archbishop of Tuam said the Church today is frequently dismissed and disregarded as it is no longer the dominant intellectual influence in society, and can no longer count on cultural or political support.
He said, “Not surprisingly in this situation greed overcomes gratitude while selfishness frequently displaces compassion. In our culture today perhaps the real challenge is not atheism but rather idolatry, that is the worship of false Gods whether it be money, a selfish and self-centred life-style or pleasure
http://catholicnews.ie/real-challenge-today-is-not-atheism-but-idolatry-archbishop-michael-neary/#iLightbox%5Bgallery3361%5D/0
As per usual, the catholic priest didn’t mention the fact that he and his flock bow face first to the dirt befor the works of their own hands.
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When a Catholic bows to Mary he is not worshipping her.
Please let me know where Mary is….id like to see her.
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No, he is not. Mary is in heaven with her Son, and if you convert, one day you can apologise in person.
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Where can I go to bow befor Mary? Thanks in advance.
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Heaven. Best of luck on your current form. Repent and believe and join the Church Jesus founded, and you are on your way.
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I agree with you100% that bowing befor Mary isn’t idolatry. So, if Mary is in heaven, how can we bow befor her? Am I missing something?
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How is bowing worship, do remind me?
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Look at how satanic and anti God your statement is. You just admitted that to go to heaven is through your church and Jesus. John 14:6 completely disagrees with you. Jesus alone through faith in Him is the way to the Father
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Jesus founded the Church – how anti-biblical and satanic is it not to believe Him. Perhaps all that satantism your family was involved in rubbed off?
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Wow, you are really bad. I think I have never encountered a person with so little understanding of the Bible from a so-called 50 years in the faith? You blow my mind with your contradictions. I mean, you have absolutely no clue in the matter of holy scripture. You are in over your head. All I could say is wow.
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I have often met men as pig-ignorant and arrogant as you, they are all self-taught and poorly educated a you can always start becoming educated, it isn’t too late, but I doubt you have the humility or the intellect to start.
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So, you call me ‘satanic and anti-God’ and I allow it. I call you an ‘idiot’ and you ban me. I had not realised you were such a little snowflake. If you throw insults, be prepared to receive them. If you can’t stand the heat, go back to kindergarten with the rest of the babies.
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Good brother Chalcedon asked where in scripture is bowing equated with worship.
One reference is in Rev where John bows befor an angel, a messenger, and the angel tells him to get up and only worship god. the angel considered bowing to him as worship. But don’t worry, good brother Chalcedon will call me a few names and will say it aint so. its amazing…good brother Chalcedon says im stupid for believing what the bible says and not believing what his church says, and out of the other side of his mouth he says he believes what the bible says, while his fellow cathols repeat rote prayers while face first to the ground befor the works of their own hands.
None of this matters. Either one is saved or one is not. You can take it to the bank one doesn’t know the Lord if that one is bowing befor the works of his hands.
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Either one is a member of the church Christ founded, or one isn’t; either one is under the delusion that being saved one cannot be unsaved, or one follows the example of St Paul who strove to the end to win the crown of salvation. The point you and your friend miss is that the Bible says worship should be directed only to God, and we worship only God. Satan takes advantage of ignorant people such as you to spread lies. You will pass, the Church will continue.
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.Lord God the Pope
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Good brother Spaniard, did you ban good brother Chalcedon from your site? I hope you didn’t. You should count it as joy when you are reviled, because our Master was also reviled. Thanks.
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He did. He thinks it fine to come here and call me ‘satanic’, but if I call him the idiot he is, he bans me – he’s a little snowflake. You, like me, have guts, and that I admire in a man.
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