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“On Holy Saturday, the Church waits at the Lord’s tomb in prayer and fasting, meditating on his Passion and Death and on his Descent into Hell, and awaiting his Resurrection.”
Today’s theme is silence. Broken, battered and bloodied, the body had been taken down from the cross and had been placed in the tomb; it was over. All the great hopes, all the expectations; these had dwindled to a handful of frightened men and women holed up in Jerusalem, hoping that the authorities would be satisfied with the death of Jesus. The Romans had mounted a guard on the tomb. God had not come to the aid of Jesus. Those who had always been a bit sceptical seemed to have been right. Peter, who had spoken so bravely, had, when the time came for action, denied Jesus thrice before the cock crew. Yes, it was over. Time to get back to life as usual; it had been but a dream.
The parallel with our secular world is all too plain. God? We note only His absence; He is dead – we killed Him. Does that ‘us’ include those who confess His name? To what extent have we conspired in killing Him? Imprisoned in antiquated modes of thinking; confined to a particular form of worship; contained within approved modes of piety; unwitnessed to in the lives we say we devote to Him; the disregard of the love He preached in our hatred for each other, and our dismissive attitude, even to our co-religionists, let alone to those who worship Him in ways we do not. The flatness, the uncertainty, the want of faith shown in that first Holy Saturday, all that reflects our own world.
The Creed tells us that He ‘descended into Hell’. Sheol, as the Jews called it, or Hades in the Greek of the New Testament, should not be confused with what the Church means by ‘hell’. It was the land of the dead, the Hades we see in Luke 19, the place where all the dead, good and bad, rested, awaiting the opening of the Gates of Heaven. The parallel with this world is striking. But on that first Holy Saturday, unseen by the world, the miracle happened. The Gate that had been closed was opened.
That is the message to us all, now, Christian and non-Christian alike. The icy emptiness of the tomb which can grip us, and which can force us into an attitude of defensiveness, melts during that miracle. God is not absent. We have been absent. On that terrible Saturday evening the disciples cowered behind barred doors, living in fear of being identified as followers of Jesus. Only the love of the Holy Women took them out, before dawn, on that Sunday morning. We cannot know what fear gripped them as they set off, only that love triumphed over it. What they would encounter as the result of that love would change their lives and the lives of those fearful men back in Jerusalem, and then, through them, the world would be changed. What reward will our love bring us?
The disciples had never quite understood Jesus, and that led them to hide away upon His death, although He had told them He would rise again. Through the darkness and through the silence, the Light that lighteth the World, came to dispel the terrors of the night and to offer hope to all. As we watch and wait, let us remember that the darkest night ends, and that, the darkest of all nights, ended with the lightest of all mornings. As we journey, it is to Emmaus, and He is with us, even to the end of all things.
tonyroberts said:
I’ve heard it said that the darkest hour is right before dawn. So true.
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chalcedon451 said:
It is especially so this holy night 🙏
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Nicholas said:
It is poignant that St Peter tells us He “preached to the spirits in prison” during His time in the Underworld. He had the victory and He let them know it.
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chalcedon451 said:
It is indeed 🙏
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Nicholas said:
The act is powerful for its symbolism: it asserts the mastery of YHWH over the gods and other aspects of creation. It asserts His promise to renew the world, which He has accomplished through the Cross. He declares that the Day of Judgement will come, that Satan’s best effort to derail it has failed.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Eshtar is upon us. I mean Easter. let us see how the Roman State Run Religion that sits on Vaticanus Hill, the site of witchcraft, celebrates its Master. many things I have presented have been denied, along with calling me various names in order to make what I say invalid. This one they cannot make go away because its there for all to see. Hold on to your hats, because it will be repeated tomorrow in the Vaticanus Hill. You can most likely watch it live. here are the words to their invocation to their Master.
Flamaus ieus Lucifer Manutius inveniat ille inquam. Lucifer qui new it occasum Christus fillus tuus qui.
Here is the English translation;
Flaming Lucifer finds mankind, I say Lucifer who will never be defeated, Christ is your son.
The cathol devotees can say the Serpent room doesn’t look like a serpent, they don’t bow befor idols, the pope doesn’t have a Osiris staff, theres no Dragon on the wall, Christ founded their religion and Bosco is wrong on all accounts, but this one they cannot make go away. Anyone can find this in any search of catholic sites or the vaticn site itself. Other cathols in here now the song by heart. How do I know this? because good brother Chalcedon and Servus told me so. Of course they said that what im seeing isn’t what im seeing. The rest of the idol worshipers never said a thing when I brought this up. Just good brothers Chalcedon and Servus crawled out from under their rocks to call me a few choice names and to say “it aint so”
So cathols, warm up your vocal chords for tomorrow you will be singing this song to your Master. Good luck at judgment day.
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chalcedon451 said:
Bosco, I am sorry you are so stupid. Lucifer is Latin for light. Easter is not used by anyone outside of Anglo-Saxon heritage – so Rome does not use it. Utterly stupid.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Tomorrow is eshtar and the vaticanus will invoke the name of Lucifer. call me any name you wish. One can see it tomorrow for themselves.
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chalcedon451 said:
Are you so stupid you think Easter is a Latin word? Lucifer is Latin for light. Jesus is the Light. There are no words to convey you ignorance. There are 5 year olds who know more languages than you – and they can spell in English.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Good brother, I can see you are doing back flips with rage and anger. The invocation calls Christ the son of Lucifer. it doesn’t call Christ Lucifer. OK, Eshtar isn’t a latin word. So what? I didn’t say it was. Thank you for showing us all how you are wilding in trying to make this go away. No fish eye lens to blame this on.
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chalcedon451 said:
Christ is Light – Lucifer is Latin for light. You claimed Vaticanus was celebrating Eshtar. It isn’t, yet again you lie. Bosco, give it a break – surely even you can’t be this thick?
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Tomorrow is Easter. The Vatican does this invocation ever Easter. Am I wrong?
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chalcedon451 said:
Only the English call it Easter, that’s my point.
Yes, every year for nearly 2000 years we celebrate this way. Only you think it is a public but secret conspiracy to worship Satan. Now, either you think I am so stupid that I worship Satan in secret, or you are stupid to think I do – guess where the smart money is?
Do you really think I worship Satan? If you, then I am sorry for you.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Glad you asked that question. its the question of the ages. Do religious people and atheists think they worship Satan? No they don’t.
Jesus said”either one is with me or against me”
the unsaved all worship Satan, whether they know it or not. Sorry to have to say this my friend, but only a friend will tell you your zipper is down. There is something you can do about it.
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chalcedon451 said:
Bosco, Satan is the father of all lies. Everything you write is a lie. Do the math.
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Fra' Eccles (@BruvverEccles) said:
Time for your lie-down, now, dear bruvver Bosco. You know that chocolate makes your brain overheat.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
For anyone concerned, here is a link, one of millions, that has the words to the invocation, called the Exultet.
http://cantusmundi.blogspot.com/2010/04/exsultet-latin.html
There is no fish eye lens to blame this one on.
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chalcedon451 said:
Poor Bosco. It is Latin, which is not English. Tell you what, here’s a deal, show me where, in that, the word Easter is used. If you can’t then you go away. Honestly, Bosco, you are so stupid it makes me cry. If you had any idea how ignorant you are, you would be ashamed. If you were educated, get your money back.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Heres a deal…if you cant tell me where the word supercaifragilisticexpialidocious is used, go away and never come back.
I never said anything about the word easter being used. I said on eshtar(easter) the Vaticanus, every year, does this invocation to its master. its going to do this Exultet tomorrow, on Easter. Suck it up. It true. Get your eshtar bonnet on and get ready to praise Lucifer, along with your Holy father, who will be presiding over the Satanic event.
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chalcedon451 said:
Tomorrow is not Eshtar. No one except you and a few tin foil hatters believe that. I have explained what Lucifer means in Latin. You do know, don’t you, that the Church has celebrated this way from the beginning. So, let’s get this straight. You think this is a giant secret conspiracy- which we celebrate in public every year? How come no one except you noticed? Silly beyond words.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
I never said it was secret. The vaticanus does this every year, and televises it. Its no secret. Im just focusing in on the words and their meanings. there are tons of pagan and Satanic things the CC does, but not many believe it and there are plausible denials for most of them. people are stupid and don’t question things. I used to think that the CC was just another church to go to. No big deal. I even liked it.
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chalcedon451 said:
No, they are not Satantic, they are Latin. Do you think that Catholics worship Satan?
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
“How come no one except you noticed? Silly beyond words.”
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidmills/2014/09/we-worship-lucifer-just-look-at-the-latin/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidmills/2014/09/we-worship-lucifer-just-look-at-the-latin/
These are both Mary sites and defend the worship of Lucifer. There are tons more, both pro and con. Are you and the other queen of heaven worshipers know how evil you all look invoking your master Lucifer? yeah, I see how you sweep it under the rug….but its not working.
Hail Lucifer.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Ooops, sorry. Somehow the same site got copied. This is the site I was suppose to copy
http://modernmedievalism.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-exultet-and-lucifer.html
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chalcedon451 said:
And this is what is written on the site you chose:
‘Unfortunately, as a friend pointed out to me a few months ago the truth of Ecclesiastes 1:15; that is, “The perverse are hard to be corrected, and the number of fools is infinite”. About half of all discussions on the Internet about the traditional Latin Exultet are conspiracy theories about the Catholic Church worshipping Satan. If you have the stomach for it, proceed to videos such as this expose of a recent Easter Vigil Mass at Saint Peter’s Basilica. Or webpages such as this. (I hope you have your antacid pills at the ready.)’
He is calling you and the nutters out – and you quote him!! Now Bosco, really! You think this supports you? It says you and those who think like you are nuts!
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chalcedon451 said:
And he goes on:
‘As you may know, the word Lucifer literally means “lightbearer” (lux for light, ferre for “to bear” or “to carry”). The ancients typically associated this word with Venus, the Morning-star…. and it also happens to be a name traditionally assigned to the adversary, Satan. Here’s the official translation of the Latin phrase I posted above:
“May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star: the one Morning Star who never sets, Christ your Son, who, coming back from death’s domain, has shed his peaceful light on humanity, and lives and reigns for ever and ever. Amen.”
To anyone with a modicum of common sense, not to menton those who have actually attended the ceremony and followed along with the text, the deacon is clearly singing about Jesus Christ. The conspiracy theorists are quick to accuse the hymn of enthroning Satan as messiah in place of Jesus, as Catholics have always apparently been wont to do since Saint Peter’s day. Strangely, these accusers, who are probably all Protestants claiming to be speaking the Biblical truth, are unaware that Scripture itself calls Jesus the morning star:
“I, Jesus, have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” (Revelation 22:16, King James Version)
The traditional text of the Exultet is a little subtler, but the message is the same. Christ is the light in the darkness, who brings us out of the gloom of the Crucifixion into the everlasting day of the Resurrection.’
Now go away. You have lied again. Will you now see how stupid you are? You cited this blog, and it calls your type a conspiracy theorist. Hung by your own noose.
Bosco, you have given us all a big laugh at your expense. Anyone less stupid would go away. Still, I shall remind you and everyone else of this as often as I can 😊☺️😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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chalcedon451 said:
I assume you are so stupid you didn’t read the sites? They rebut your nonsense.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
“Are you so stupid you think Easter is a Latin word? Lucifer is Latin for light. Jesus is the Light.”
The Exultet says Jesus is the son of the Light, or Lucifer. Good brother Chalcedon calls me stupid but he misreads what his own song says while he claims to be an expert on it. I don’t mean to just put good brother Chalcedon on trial here….all of his fellow Mary worshipers do the same thing. They twist their own words to make their religions falsehoods go away. They are flailing away in mad dashes when they are confronted with undeniable proof that their religion is demonic. Then the usual personal attack on the messenger ensues. if anyone has noticed, I, Bosco the Immaculate doesn’t have to resort to those desperate measures, because my message is from the Father. Im just the messenger. I don’t take attacks on my person personally.
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chalcedon451 said:
Is God not the source of light? Poor Bosco. Yes, you really are this stupid.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
“How come no one except you noticed? Silly beyond words.’
Quote from good brother Chalcedon. he says im silly. Good brother Chalcedon, by his own admission, lets us know that he has been in confinement somewhere. His own catholic churches mouthpiece is all abuzz with this.
That is the problem with languages; the translation is only as good as the person doing the translation. Since there are no native Latin speaking people any more, we have no one who understands all of the vagaries of the language. We deal with people every day who interpret the Bible to suit their own purposes. It is a tool used by some who wish to attack the Church. It’s no different than those who attack opposing differing viewpoints by twisting the words of their opponent. Politicians have their own sanitized word for such prevarications, they call it “spin”.
http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/showthread.php?52400-Does-anyone-here-know-any-Latin-Someone-s-claiming-Pope-Francis-Invoked-Satan-at
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chalcedon451 said:
Bosco, try actually reading the links. This is getting very funny, as the links do not say what you think.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
These videos are troublingly popular: this video alone has about 1.4 million views so far. And the case for the conspiracy is pretty clear: the pope and a huge group of Catholics, including many Cardinals, are praying a prayer that clearly uses the word “lucifer.”
But on the other hand, does the theory make even a little bit of sense? Not really. It’s ridiculous enough to believe that the pope and the College of Cardinals are all secretly Satanists. It’s a lot more ridiculous to think that they’re openly Satanists, pledging allegiance to Lucifer every Easter on live TV. And it’s still more ridiculous to think that they do all of this, and that nobody else around the world except a few anonymous YouTube cranks notices or cares
“How come no one except you noticed? Silly beyond words.’”
http://shamelesspopery.com/lucifer/
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chalcedon451 said:
Yes, and it is in Latin.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Good brother Chalcedon is a nice person. he has walled himself off from the world and doesn’t have the foggiest of whats going on it it, much the same, or exactly the same as my mother. Im convinced that this is a good thing, because whats going on in this world is madness, and knowing about it causes grief.
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chalcedon451 said:
Bosc, stop the transference. You clearly failed to read the links. I am beginning to think you can’t read.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
I knew they were catholic sites. I wanted to show that im not the only one who has dealt with this troubling subject. Of course catholic sites will say how wonderful Lucifer is. Just like the graven image issue, cathols saw that saying carved images of men aren’t graven images wasn’t quite holding water. So whats the next best thing?…….cant deny that the CC isn’t full to the rafters with graven images……so hey! lets just claim that “God commanded them to make graven images”.
Bottom line is that Lucifer is invoked in your catholic chant.
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chalcedon451 said:
No, one of them wasn’t. You claimed they supported your nonsensical views, they didn’t; anyone not inspired by Satan would know they were busted.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Sorry to give the impression those sites supported my view. I just put those sites up to show that catholics are circling the wagons. Just one more issue that the faithful have to say up is down and down is up.
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chalcedon451 said:
As one of the sites was not Catholic, and as they all thought your point of view that of an ignorant cretin, thank you for posting them. What they prove is that educated people understand and the uneducated don’t.
Did you see Rob’s educative comment? There is literally no one here who supports your ignorant prejudice. If you had any decency or sense, you’d apologise for being the back end of a horse.
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chalcedon451 said:
And on the Ishtar nonsense this, if we’re capable of reading that much text, would show what a banana you are:
http://catholicsay.com/is-easter-an-english-translation-of-ishtar/
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colmar said:
Bosco,
You distress me. Why? Because you have trivialized and mocked what was a thoughtful and moving post by Chalcedon. It was written in faith and in faith it spoke to me. I will say no more.
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chalcedon451 said:
May the joy of the Risen Christ be with you today – and every day.
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colmar said:
And with you. Alleluia
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chalcedon451 said:
Alleluia indeed 🙏
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Rob said:
The morning star; the star which ushers in the day.
International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
DAY-STAR
(helel ben-shachar, Isaiah 14:12; phosphoros, 2 Peter 1:19):
The Old Testament passage is rendered in the King James Version “Lucifer, son of the morning,” in the King James Version margin and the Revised Version (British and American) “day-star,” i.e. the morning star. The reference is to the king of Babylon (Isaiah 14:4).
In 2 Peter 1:19, “Until. the daystar arises in your hearts,” the word is literally, “light-bringer.” It is applicable, therefore, not only to the planet Venus, seen as a morning star, herald of the dawn, but to the sun itself, and is used here as a title of our Lord.
In Isaiah, we see “Lucifer, son of the morning,” identified as the king of Babylon often considered to be likened to Satan in his pride.
However, in Peter, we are presented under the same title (image) with the TRUE LIGHT of the world Jesus.
Satan always was an imposter and there is no light of truth in Him.
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chalcedon451 said:
Indeed, Rob 👏 May the joy of the Resurrection be with you and yours today and always.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
Good brother Colmar, the Exultet is the heart of Easter in the vaticanus Hill. It was in keeping with the subject.
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chalcedon451 said:
You really can’t read, can you? You can make out the words, but not the meaning. You seem functionally illiterate.
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Bosco the Immaculate said:
In defense of myself, in regerds to you saying that I ,Bosco the Immaculate, have accused catholic lfollowers of all worshiping Lucifer, its my belief that 99.9% of lay cathols don’t know about the Lucifer language in that chant.
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chalcedon451 said:
100% know we don’t worship Lucifer, and 100% can Google the sites you did which tell them that you talk nonsense. You’re like the small child who giggles at the word “album” because it has the word “bum” in it.
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