And so, next Tuesday the United States will elect a new president. Our choices this year are abysmal, but still, we have to choose. Amongst those of us whom you most read here, I am American, and I will vote for Trump. Why?
To be sure, for me, it has been a long and very bumpy road, Trump was my least choice candidate, but he won the nomination. Reality is real, no third party is going to win, so it is a binary race.
So, how does a Christian decide amongst bad (or evil) choices? He prays, long and hard, he thinks, he studies, and then he prays some more, for discernment. It’s hard though for a layman, to apply Scripture and the Patristic fathers to contemporary events, so we look to more modern leaders of the Faith. For me, that often comes down to Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I was helped in that effort recently by an article by Dr. Mark DeVine, is associate professor of history and doctrine at Beeson Divinity School in Birmingham, Alabama. He says this:
Wayne Grudem’s defense of a vote for Trump evoked an avalanche of repudiation, a veritable beat down by an array of theologically likeminded, #NeverTrump “friends.” A vote for Trump would be “wicked,” they said. It would violate Christian conscience and stain one’s reputation.
I’d guess we have all heard this from friends, associates, and even co-religionists.
A few days before his departure from New York City Bonhoeffer wrote to Reinhold Niebuhr:
“. . . I have had time to think and to pray about my situation and that of my nation and to have God’s will for me clarified. I have come to the conclusion that I have made a mistake in coming to America. I must live through this difficult period of our national history with the Christian people of Germany. I will have no right to participate in the reconstruction of Christian life in Germany after the war if I do not share the trials of this time with my people. . . . Christians in Germany will face the terrible alternative of either willing the defeat of their nation in order that Christian civilization may survive, or willing the victory of their nation and thereby destroying our civilization. I know which of these alternatives I must choose; but I cannot make that choice in security . . .”
Key features of Bonhoeffer’s thinking would survive all the way to the gallows of Flossenburg concentration camp: that the will of God is discerned for a Christian, particularly in what he called “boundary situations,” only through intense, sustained prayer and reflection upon the word of God; that obedience in such situations more often leads disciples into, not away from, suffering—“When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die.” His realization that, however global one’s human and Christian identity, one’s national identity also counts and must impinge upon pursuit of the will of God and discernment of “true patriotism.”
Seen in that light, and with our knowledge of the maelstrom Bonhoeffer was descending into, well it makes our yoke look fairly light doesn’t? But it is the same battle.
The path from pacifist to conspirator to double agent to encourager and even volunteer to commit tyranticide forced Bonhoeffer to let go of such motives and hopes. Obedience to the will of God required decision after decision Bonhoeffer expected to so stain his reputation, so compromise his character in the eyes of others, as to disqualify him from the sort of future constructive role he once thought his return might make possible. […]
Should he survive, Bonhoeffer expected his ordination as a minister of the word of God would be stripped from him. He had, in a thousand ways, knowingly dirtied his hands in the conspiracy—even to the point of volunteering to carry a bomb to Hitler.
Not that Bonhoeffer came to despise his own moral “reputation” as worthless or indifferent (adiaphora). His immersion in the Psalms taught him the crucial importance of reputation, both to God and to his children. The same Psalms where “putting to shame,” and “being put to shame” figure repeatedly and prominently as central preoccupations, also teach that the one committed to doing God’s will cannot secure and must not attempt to secure his own reputation himself. The obedient servant looks to his master alone for vindication:
Then I shall not be put to shame, having fixed my eyes on all your commandments (Psalm 119:6)
Being put to shame is the opposite of being blessed. My life is put to shame when that which I relied upon breaks apart. For then I have nothing left that could give my life meaning and due, nothing to which I could appeal. My life becomes a mockery and shames me. I relied upon my own strength, and I became weak and sick. I counted on my property, and it was taken from me overnight. I trusted in reputation and power, and fell deep. I took pleasure in my honesty, and was overcome by sin. In the same way anyone’s life can be put to shame if they consider “mere flesh their strength” (Jer. 17:5). But if my gaze seeks not people, honors, and riches in the world but God’s commandments alone, then I will not be put to shame. For God’s commandments cannot break apart because God himself holds on to them and with them everyone who looks to them. I will never have to be ashamed of heeding God’s commandments. . . . Even if the world’s judgment is against me, God’s judgment speaks for me. I look at God’s commandments when I base my decisions neither on other people nor even my own thoughts or experiences, but rather when I ask ever anew, even if contrary to my pious thoughts and experiences, for what God commands me. I can be put to shame even by my most pious decisions and ways but never by God’s commandment. God alone, not my piety, will preserve me from shame and dishonor.
Amid rising demands for an Aryan Clause in the church, this urgent and overriding concern emerges perhaps most vividly in an address delivered to a group of pastors in 1933. Here the 27-year-old Bonhoeffer identified “three possible ways in which the church can act toward the state.” The third way “is not just to bandage the victims under the wheel, but to jam a spoke in the wheel itself.”
The overriding concern? Not one’s reputation, not making some sort of statement about one’s own integrity, but doing what one could to help others, to serve others, to reduce or prevent the suffering of others. In Jesus Christ, for the Lutheran Bonhoeffer, God shows himself as the God who is for us (pro nobis), making his Son “the man for others,” and his followers servants of those same “others” in his name. […]
For Bonhoeffer, when the suffering of others is at stake, virtue acts to stop, prevent, or mitigate the suffering. It acts not for itself but in service to others, even if such service threatens to soil ones ostensibly “clean hands,” or jeopardizes one’s present or potential future reputation, or even one’s life. It does not understand sanctification as a cooperative effort between believers and God to make one clean. “Already you are clean because of the word I have spoken to you” (John 15:3). It understands sanctification as a divine setting apart of justified sinners for holy use—to serve others. Sanctifying of oneself means yielding to the prior and fundamental divine sanctification of oneself for such use. […]
Could such virtue in 2016 treat as less urgent the potential harm a sitting president of the United States might unleash upon hundreds of millions around the globe than some chance to display the purity of its conservative or liberal credentials or to teach a political party a lesson by staying home on election day or to cast a protest vote for a candidate who cannot win? No.
via Bonhoeffer’s Dirty Hands and the 2016 Presidential Election by Dr Mark DeVine « Sago Emphasis mine.
As another famous Lutheran said, “Hier ich stehe, ich kann nicht anders.”
NEO – with apologies – perhaps I missed the point.
I simply don’t see how the situation is comparable with that of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Both the candidates are distasteful, but unless I have missed something, I don’t think that either of them are advocating (for example) systematic genocide of the Jewish people – as advocated by Herr Hitler in Bonhoeffer’s Germany.
Hillary Clinton’s agenda may look dismal, but I don’t see it as evil. Yes – I am disturbed by her liberal attitude towards abortion; I do consider abortion to be murder; I’m not sure I’d let that be the deciding factor in an election. Trump is basically a total clown.
But I’m looking for the Bonhoeffer angle here – by voting for Trump or Clinton, are you really voting against somebody who is pure evil with an agenda that is pure evil? Are you making a stand of good against evil? I don’t see it here.
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Yeah, Jock, I think you missed the point. Happens to me all the time!
The point the linked article (and me for that matter) was trying to make is that we are called to be effective in what God calls us to do. Not virtue signal and puff up our earthly reputation. Far to many of our GOP so-called leaders are doing exactly that – the so-called #nevertrumpers.
Is it on the scale of joining the plot to assassinate Hitler? No, of course not, although some candidate tendencies could lead to that. The point is to take our guidance from those who have faced similar decisions, usually much starker ones.
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But I still don’t see how going out and voting for either of these candidates is effective in any way for anything at all.
I think that the time to be effective would have been long before either of these two candidate were chosen, to involve oneself in the political scene and to try to influence it in such a way that different candidates were chosen.
In this situation, it seems to me that it is quite legitimate to take the view that both candidates are as bad as each other and to show one’s contempt for the choice by staying at home.
A very low turnout would send a very clear message.
By the way – I note that George Foreman is backing Trump.
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We did that, well, many of us did that. But now is now, and a vulgar self seeking man is not equal to an unindicted national security felon, who has destroyed people (at least socially) for her (and her husband’s) gain. Some pigs are simply too unlawful to be allowed to succeed.
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By ‘national security felon’ are you referring to the emails? If so, could you explain what she has done in this matter that is so wrong? I haven’t really been following the story – so I’ve probably missed the vital part – why were people getting their water heated over the fact that she used a different email server?
The part about destroying people I take seriously. To be honest, I do get very bad impression of her and wouldn’t put anything past her. But could you refer me to the examples?
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She was required, like all people cleared for confidential (or higher) classified documents to use only secure government networks. Her private server was less secure than gmail, and many secret or higher documents were on it. This is much more serious than, say, General Petraeus telling his mistress his plans, and he went to jail for it. One guy I know said they covered this the very first day of training, and he was a chaplain. Pick any of the women that Bill assaulted, some would add that the Clinton’s ordered the death of Vince Foster, although I don’t think that can be proven, at least yet.
If what I heard is correct, the British intelligence services do not allow their people to even use Google as a search engine, when secure stream touch insecure streams, security is always compromised, and the sweater may well unravel, as the Russians used to say.
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Hello AATW! Today is my first day off during the week since July, So I have some time to say hello to my friends. I took a job as a Postal Courier when the academic career wasn’t giving me the proper resources for my family’s future. The job is pretty strenuous and I’m exhausted all the time, but my wife and I are having a home visit for adoption this November and I am already putting money away for our future child’s Christian education–that’s what keeps me going. I may be getting too old to have a great impact on the world, but perhaps, my greatest impact can be with this child.
I just read Bonhoeffer’s biography by Eric Metaxas, I do believe many Catholics agree with me when we I say, “What an inspiring man.” Jock does make an objection with the comparison, and having read at great length about the man, I would attest that Bonhoeffer’s return to Germany was to resist the immoral who controlled his homeland and those that he loved. Furthermore, I would continue, as I have before, to insist on the notion that both candidates are immoral and that we cannot possibly choose one simply because one is a lesser evil. A lesser evil is still evil, and like Bonhoeffer, Josef Mueller, and Claus Von Stauffenberg we should resist evil with whatever means–and the proper means –at that particular time. If the American people keeps participating in politics by choosing their favorite team colors or mascot and vote down the line by that method rather than challenge our political system by resistance and not accepting the political candidates that are chosen (out of the entire population of this nation) by roughly 6% participates of nation. We will keep suffering, not the same fate, but a continuous ruin until all conservative, reactionary, and religious footholds are swept from the land.
There are other alternatives to resistance, and they are built into our political into our political system. For example, a mormon in Utah, Evan McMullin, does have a legitimate shot to win the electoral votes in Utah. If there is no electoral college winner, then of course, the vote goes to the house to determine the new president. It’s not likely that congress would choose a non-major party candidate, but still in the realm of possibilities. Furthermore, if we can change the perception of politics in this nation from a team mentality, it would be possible for Gary Johnson to win New Mexico, and allowing him as a choice in the congressional vote.
Speaking of Gary Johnson, there are still thing to be won, even if he can’t win the presidency. For example, one of the major attributes that leads to corruption is the two-party system. If Gary Johnson can win enough of the popular vote, he can break the stranglehold on federal election funds.
We simply cannot be persuaded by the idea that what has always been must always be in American Politics.
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Welcome back, my friend! 🙂
I don’t disagree with you, except perhaps on there being any choice but the binary one, in the next week. But, that doesn’t mean it’s really acceptable, it’s not. Going forward, I agree with all you say, and we ALL need to work on making things better. Personally, I don’t want to ever get close to where Americans face the choices that made Valkyrie moral.
If only the Libertarians had made a better choice this year.
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Personally, I don’t find voting for a libertarian Candidate moral–as they and their platform are typically pro-choice on life issues– but I am going to do so in this election knowing that it’s not likely that they will win. However, I want to attempt to break the stranglehold on election campaign funds. I will admit though that my choice is a bit freer than many living in a state (IL) that is already decided in the election.
I concur with you on the notion that I pray we never see the days of Valkyrie. Afterall, how bad does it have to be for those like Bonhoeffer to be persuaded against Luther’s teachings of loyalty to Princes by the Catholic teachings on Tyrannicide?
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I find it problematic, as well, but in theory that choice shouldn’t be in Washington at all, it;s a state matter to be dealt with in the states – either that, or it’s a natural right -which is what I believe- the one called the right to life. They say that we’re not quite decided here, although I find that rather surprising, usually I do vote Libertarian for president – for the reason you state.
Indeed so, although Ausustine’s theory on the morality of of violating immoral law -if one is willing to pay the secular price- must have figured in, as well.
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Honestly, I’ve said this to a few folks lately, even a good friend who is a Missouri-Synod Pastor agrees, that we need to start resisting secular government that if they force us to betray our moral conscience that we must force them to imprison us. After all, the world will never see us as oppressed unless there are chains on our wrist.
Speaking about Bonhoeffer, I was surprised the other day to find a prayer from him included in my book of Catholic prayers:
Prayer from Prison:
O God, early in the morning I cry to you.
Help me to pray and gather my thoughts to you,
I cannot do it alone.
In me it is dark, but with you there is light;
I am lonely, but you do not desert me;
My courage fails me, but with you there is help;
I am restless, but with you there is peace;
in me there is bitterness, but with you there is patience;
I do not understand your ways, but you know the way for me.
Father in Heaven praise and thanks be to you for the night.
— Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945)
Pastor, Lutheran Theologian
Perhaps, by the lives of many during the period, including Bonhoeffer’s, let us be reminded that we cannot simply believe in God with “Cheap Grace.”
1 Peter 2:21
21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
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I’ve heard good things lately about him from several Catholics, and sometimes when I look at the Catholic church, I wonder if the MS (especially the Confessional Lutheran Church) aren’t better catholics than the Roman variety, but you know that a lot of us identify as non-Roman catholics, anyway.
Bonhoeffer was a pretty admirable man, and Christian man at that. There’s far too much longing for “Cheap Grace” in all our churches, well probably in all of us, really.
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You’re right, “probably in all of us.”
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Sadly, I know it’s true for me.
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I too am voting, unapologetically for Donald Trump in this election. I am not voting for a saint and never have. Flawed individuals are what people get in every election. I trust [though admittedly far less than I once did] that the system devised by our founding fathers has given us checks and balances to the power of a President. Therefore, if you think that you are voting for an individual you are wasting your time by placing your trust in every sound bite, promise or pledge to do this or that. You still must deal with the Congress and the Supreme Court.
The platform or ideology of a party is far more important in the long term than the ‘mouthpiece’ that is elected to put forward that agenda. The agendas are simple . . . progressivism which is overturning at every turn the rule of law and the belief in the system our forefathers designed or a law and order return to basic constitutional rights which means undoing much of the harm that has been foisted upon this nation in the last 8 years of Obama. It is a vote for a dismantling of the Republic we [purportedly] have in the US or a return to the rule of law. It is that simple.
The only question that I need answer satisfactorily in the ethics and morality department is whether or not who’s likely to cause more harm to freedom, liberty and the values that this country was founded upon and who is more likely to attempt to restore us to the missions that the founders placed before us. Self-determination of the people will not last if corruption and cronyism determines our path forward. No matter what is fundamentally flawed in the individual it is far more important to discover what is fundamentally flawed in the vision for tomorrow’s America.
For me, if we lose the chance to make appointments to the Supreme Court we risk having politicial decisions based upon ideology rather than on Constitutional Law. That will last far beyond the presidency that either candidate represents. If you think that abortion and religious freedom is worth fighting for then there is no question as to whom you will vote. If you worry that foreign countries are having an undue influence in our elections or that large world globalists, the UN, and global financial systems already have too much import into our politics then there is no question as to whom you will vote.
Like it or not, an unabashed, rich narcissist is far easier to deal with than a narcissistic manipulator of hidden agendas with ties to many avowed enemies of this country. An attempt to defuse this movement toward globalism and certain enslavement [transferring our self-determination to people who are not even citizens of this country] is a vote worth casting. If not now, then when? We are reaching a point where if left unchecked civil war is certain. We have already waited far too long to address these issues and I fear if it is not taken on during this round, our last chance to turn around this slide is likely to pass us by. If you want more of our police to be murdered, our rule of law scoffed at or ignored, a breaking down of law and order, more divisiveness and a surrender to global governance and influence . . . no chance of ending Obamacare or our abortion laws then you will vote for Hillary and avowed progressive who walks in locked step with the likes of Saul Alinsky and Cloward and Piven. In fact the destruction of our way of life seems to be a core desire that is starting to be admitted publicly for the first time. They have become bold in their visions which once were only spoken of in private meetings.
Trump or Hillary? It is no brainer . . . one represents a return to basics and the other admits that she is looking forward to more of the changes that we have already seen reek havoc in our country. Its failure to bring the promised utopia these progressives have promised only makes them double down and blame those who just haven’t let them go further down the path that they wish to set us upon. So more of what does not work will fix it . . . If you believe that then let Hillary take us to the hell that awaits our future. If not . . . then you don’t. It won’t be easy and a war of sorts is going to be waged whichever wins. People need to decide if they will sit out this war or which side of the war they are going to ally with.
My advice: don’t vote for some ‘perceived’ savior. Vote for what is likely to be the types of people who will advise the administration and the overall movement that their platform will take the country. Anything less than that is a utopian idea of what the presidency is: it is not about electing perfect, sinless, saint to office. God knows, we have never had one and never will. You do what you can to preserve what is good and minimize that which is objectively evil . . . which we believe is likely by their election.
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Thank you. You won’t be surprised that in all essentials, I agree with you. I don’t see that there is any choice on offer, and that why I published this, it goes to the heart of how patriotism and Christianity can conflict and interact with each other, and how a moral people must decide.
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While our eyes are fixed on the various sins, and characters of individuals, we must raise our eyes to something more substatial and lasting . . . the direction that is likely to follow. Even corrupt characters, lead and win battles for a good cause. That to me is what is at stake. People tend to want their cake and eat it too . . . they are dreamers. Practicality seems to tell us that more is at stake than picking virtuous individuals for a job. God can bring good even from dispicable people. The cause is more important than the personalities of those who will head those causes.
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Yep. And along that line, I just read that Jill Stein endorsed Trump as “the less dangerous option”. Obviously not verified, but interesting.
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It is, NEO. This election would have been dangerous no matter who the parites put forward in my mind. The anger is considerable on both sides and looms close to the surface. It is going to erupt in some way. Which eruption will yield the less casualties and lead toward a normalization where we begin mending our own house and restoring our ‘common good’ of shared values is something worth taking a stance on. If we don’t then, what I suspect is likely to be the outcome of Germany once again, will find ordinary [mostly good people] gravitating back to far more dangerous expressions of their disgust. They will side with a Hitler again if it is the only option given to them. If an option is not provided you can bet that a not very pretty future is going to explode upon the scene. We can’t keep hiding our heads in the sand. The progressives have divided us into angry, divisive, small mobs who want their own grievances met. It is a recipe for a divided, weakening country where we no longer trust even our next door neighbors. We best begin the process of weaning ourselves from getting something for our own little ‘club’ and start evaluating the big picture. Obamaphones, welfare checks, and other give-aways are not going to pacify the folk for long. Bread and circuses only go so far . . . and then nobody likes paying for them they collapse under their own weight.
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Yes, and the same goes for bailing out banks, getting into wars (for no good reason), farm subsidies, and all the rest. All of the over fattened oxen need to get gored. We’re already at the point where it is not far-fetched to foresee the economy of the west collapsing. Time to step on the brakes, hard!
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Indeed, and sadly, I must admit that we may already have passed the point of no return concerning the economy. But we must try . . . sitting around wringing our hands will have no chance of doing anything at all. I’d rather die fighting the good fight with other good men and women than sitting idly by and make excuses for my non-commitment.
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Scoop – may I gently help out here. The concept you’re looking for: the Christian king was never expected to be a saint.
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Yes we are, as we all know, sinful flesh. Look hard enough and any media can tear to pieces any man or woman who enters politics . . . and they will. It is all misdirection. We never had a saint . . . but we were blessed to have some very good people though with the internet I would bet they would have a problem getting elected in our day.
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Along that line, somebody (Luther, I think but can’t find it) said that it is OK for the Emperor (Holy Roman, I presume) to lead a war against the Turks, emulating King David, because that is his vocation. All else that I remember of it is that it was based on the Psalms. Kings (or Presidents) are like the rest of us, fallen men, sinners, in fact. They just have a different job.
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As I mentioned before, Scoop, you live in a state, where your vote carries more weight than mine, therefore, I do not begrudge your decision…even though I am glad I do not carry your weight.
Clinton–no doubt– will continue globalism, imperialistic wars in the name of relativism, and the promotion of a culture of death. However, in my state, the electoral votes are already hers, so I must use my vote in other ways, which is why I look to boost the majority vote for the Libertarians.
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Don’t be too sure Phillip that the MSM is feeding you a bunch of baloney. Your vote counts though the electoral college is long overdue to be updated by changing demographics. Right now, it is skewed to favor the democrats and it is no secret. So vote for something that counts . . . the message is not express your disgust for the candidates it is to send a message to the country that you are not going to stand for this growing corruption in DC and their constant movement toward a globalist vision of the world. If not now, then when? You may not have another chance to do this.
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Words that I will ponder on, and pray on. I’m honestly afraid, I’ve studied enough to know that we’re on a turning point in our history.
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That is my assessment. The time is grave, my friend. It is time to take sides . . .
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We all are, I think. Scoop is right, the media is very untrustworthy.
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I don’t trust the media, it’s so blatant that they are playing cover up and promoting the agenda of prevailing relativist philosophy. What is troubling is how they don’t deny it anymore, and great many folks could care less.
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That’s the problem, I can almost tolerate the BBC London news, I understand their bias completely – the American media is just useless anymore.
You guys might both like these, even though they are slightly NSFW, he talks rather like I do on a job site.
https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/11/01/propaganda-sucks-even-when-you-know-its-propaganda-part-1/
and
https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/11/02/propaganda-sucks-even-when-you-know-its-propaganda-part-2/
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Good links and true. The other side of this is that the propoganda gives cover for a win . . . even if their is widespread election fraud. I guess the dead and the busloads of poor or illegals who cast multitple votes in several states [especially the swing states] don’t put signs in their yards but do tell pollsters that they are going to vote for Hillary. No telling how many of these folks show up during this election because without voter ID we seem to have found no answer for correcting this problem. Funny how its the Democrats who oppose voter ID isn’t it? Then there is the completely unknown problem of fixing the electronic voting machines which have been proven over and over again to be hackable and that you can change entire blocks of votes from one candidate to another. It seems more like a banana republic voting system every election.
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Yeah, particularly in a country where you need ID to buy a cold pill, or a beer. The polls look this week like they’ve decided they better get a bit more honest if they want their gravy train to continue. It’s surely time to end early voting though, that’s gotten completely out of hand. Election fraud will continue on some level, no matter what we do, as long as it is profitable to win the election, but surely we can mitigate to some (large) extent.
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Sure . . . but even in the day where the candidates had money men with ‘walking around money” in their pockets . . . the liklihood of losing election because of it was scant because both sides did it and few elections are decided by only a handful of votes. Today the problem is so much worse.
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I agree, just a reminder not to go utopian on this, the world is still the world.
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I can’t help you with the banana – if you reinstate Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, you’ll solve the Republic problem.
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I doubt the idea of becoming a colony once again is very popular among the people, Jock. 🙂 We spent too much blood and treasure end that. But our elites and their foreign money gifts are certainly pulling out all the stops to get us to farm outmany of our political decisions to those who aren’t US citizens . . . sort of like the EU. I guess that’s why I support Brexit. It causes problems but in the long run will stop larger problems from becoming unsolvable ones. Taking back your self determinism is always a good place to start if you want meaningful change.
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Trade the Acela Corridor for the Westminster Bubble? How does that help?
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My loyalty is to Her Majesty – and not to any Westminster bubble.
With the Scottish Independence referendum, I was undecided, but one word from Her Majesty outside church on the Sunday before polling day communicated Her Majesty’s desire for a united kingdom and her wish was my command.
With the Brexit referendum, one word from Her Majesty (where she asked her dinner guests if they could see any point in Britain’s continued membership of the EU) and my pro-Brexit view was firmly established.
I agree that for much of her reign she has had a problem with her governments and Prime Ministers. It makes no difference. I remain Her Majesty’s loyal subject (and I can’t imagine having such loyalty to Trump or Clinton or any of the presidents that the U.S. of A has had during my lifetime).
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Fair enough, Jock, and yes, I admire you for it. Still under the settlement of the Glorious Revolution, the leader of the UK is the PM. While I do like Mrs. May, I don’t support her for head of State.
In our case, our allegiance is not to any earthly king or potentate, it is to our Constitution, our country, and our flag. Theodore Roosevelt said it best:
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
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For the life of me, I can’t understand the idea how Voter ID laws are racist when given the example of everything for which one needs an ID. The answers, well you don’t understand because of “white privilege” or because you’re a racist isn’t an answer, it’s deflection.
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Yes, it is, completely and utterly.
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Even more than deflection my friend. It is a made up straw man to cover up their intention to violate election laws and hopefully steal elections. It is no different than the sham ‘moral’ and ‘ethical’ reasons to grant amnesty to illegals and to even ignore our laws and allow them free entry. It is almost a joke that Democrats are using moral arguments anyway but aside from that the only real reason this is important to them is that they are looking for another ‘victimized’ constituency that they can count on for votes. Whether our culture is destroyed and our country’s poor and middleclass will be harmed economically is of no concern to them. They want to ensure that eventually they will never lose another election. Funny how they are taking the illegals and busing them for the first time ever to Red states to live and vote. Gee, sounds like they are trying to change the demographics so that the electoral college will ensure all future elections.
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It’s interesting what folks fail to realize about illegal immigration. I DO have a compassionate heart for those who are trying to better their lives. However, coming into this country against the law does in effect steal resources from tax payers. It’s stealing–it’s a moral issue in that regard. Regardless, it has nothing to do with race. I’ll trade 1 million pious Mexicans for 1 million white secularist any day.
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Me too. Although the trade still to be ethical must be made against those who are legitimately and legally awaiting entry into this country. Those people have been royally screwed in all of this.
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You and me both! And yes, I completely understand why they want to come here (or the UK, for that matter) we all want the best for our families. We need to fix immigration, and badly, but first we must control it.
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I didn’t register to vote, so I cant vote for Trump. I don’t vote, not because of religious reasons, but because I don’t care enough. The first time I voted was the yr I turned 18, the voting age. I wasn’t gonna vote then, but my grandma made me vote. She even had a list of all the things she ordered me to vote for. Well, I had to do what she asked…..no such a thing as saying no to her.
I hope Trump wins. We need some excitement in Washington. Maybe Trump will hurry up the rapture. Maybe Trump will build a wall and make those thieving beaners pay for it. That would be great. I don’t care about any other issues. The military runs the country anyway.
Go Trump ! (;-D
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Ya know, Bosco, if I lived in California, I might just feel the same way. 🙂
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When ever Mexican workers are on any of our jobsites, things get stolen, for sure, without exception. Management has agreed to stop using Mexican workers. Mexican neighborhoods are in pandemonium. Mexican gangs make life impossible. Prisons are bursting at the seams with south americans / Mexican americans doing life sentence for all kinds of murder and mayhem. I say feed them to sharks on live television. let the young ones know what will happen if they join crime gangs.
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…. and …. umm ….. would Jesus approve of feeding them to the sharks on live television?
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Seems a bit ISISy to me, but Cali does have a serious problem.
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That might be a bit extreme, but I have seen much the same, on occasion. Enforcing the law would help a lot.
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Besides – Melina Trump would look far better as a First Lady than Bill Clinton.
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Lot safer for the interns as well! 🙂
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By the way – the race is now ‘down to the wire’.
Does anybody around here feel manipulated?
It seems to me that a ‘down to the wire’ election is exactly what the media and entertainment industry want and I wouldn’t be surprised to discover that there was a Holywood conspiracy to make it that way.
People are seriously getting their water heated.
Wait for ‘2016 Campaign Trail: The Movie’.
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Not really, most of us thought the media was trying to play us. Their game doesn’t work anymore, although it does anger us. Don’t bet on the down to the wire either, they’re still spinning – I doubt it’ll be close. All depends on turnout, and so far Hillary’s is down, but it ain’t over till it’s over.
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Trumpslide coming!!
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