One of the greatest of our Popes was St Leo I, and this passage, from a sermon of his for the occasion of the feast of SS Peter and Paul, is a powerful reminder of what we owe to the two men who, in the power of the Holy Spirit, did so much to spread the Good News in the post-resurrection period.
The whole world, dearly-beloved, does indeed take part in all holy anniversaries, and loyalty to the one Faith demands that whatever is recorded as done for all men’s salvation should be everywhere celebrated with common rejoicings. But, besides that reverence which today’s festival has gained from all the world, it is to be honoured with special and peculiar exultation in our city, that there may be a predominance of gladness on the day of their martyrdom in the place where the chief of the Apostles met their glorious end.
For these are the men, through whom the light of Christ’s gospel shone on you, O Rome, and through whom you, who wast the teacher of error, wast made the disciple of Truth. These are your holy Fathers and true shepherds, who gave you claims to be numbered among the heavenly kingdoms, and built you under much better and happier auspices than they, by whose zeal the first foundations of your walls were laid: and of whom the one that gave you your name defiled you with his brother’s blood.
These are they who promoted you to such glory, that being made a holy nation, a chosen people, and royal state 1 Peter 2:9, and the head of the world through the blessed Peter’s holy See you attained a wider sway by the worship of God than by earthly government. For although you were increased by many victories, and extended your rule on land and sea, yet what your toils in war subdued is less than what the peace of Christ has conquered.
Leo the Great, Sermon 82
Bosco the Great said:
Leo I said……”For he was ordained before the rest in such a way that from his being called the Rock, from his being pronounced the Foundation”
Jesus said…”on this rock” …he didn’t say ….on you Peter. This Rock is the fact that Jesus is the Christ. Is there any other Rock?
The foundation Is Christ. If there is a church that has a man as a foundation, well, that church gets what it deserves.
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chalcedon451 said:
A lack of education is a terrible thing; but you have been told this before. Jesus said, in the language he spoke, Aramaic, in this kepha – and he renamed Simon ‘kephas’ which means rock. So Jesus did, literally say on kephas he built his church.
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Bosco the Great said:
But whatsoever the authority of the Apostolic See has enacted, or shall enact, let that be held as law for all.
The Edict of Valentinian III The Primacy of the Pope, Constitutio Valentiniani III, 445.
Already setting the stage for burning people to death.
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chalcedon451 said:
Are you actually a random computer programme which responds to words? The church burned no one. The State did. As you live in a country which still kills people, I’d refrain from throwing stones.
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Bosco the Great said:
Hello good brother, who are you and yours doing?
Yes we kill those who are sentenced to death for crimes.
The people burned and tortured to death and impaled and torn apart, ….what were their crimes? Werent they crimes supposedly against the Catholic Church? As an aside, the city officials were all appointed by the Cc and even the kings were all CC appointees. Its alittle hard for me to see how the CC had no part in the deaths. But, its not your fault, or mine.
Leo was one of the first to start making laws for his new found religion.
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chalcedon451 said:
Oddly enough Bosco, they were killed for what their States defined as crimes, just as in the USA. They did not, of course, fill their veins with chemicals which made them cry out in agony, or strap them in chairs and run electricity through their bodies. It took modern America to come up with such bizarre methods. People in glass houses are unwise to throw stones.
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Bosco the Great said:
Well my good brother, hope all is well with you.
The US govt isn’t a religion, in the true sense. It dosnt claim to be a means for our relationship and salvation in Christ.
How about this;…..If you ask me if I would rather be burned to death of have an injection or electrocuted, id go with electric or poison.
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Bosco the Great said:
Stupid idiot prison wardens. They look to buy drugs that can be injected to kill the criminal, when all they have to do is inject water into the veins. Take out blood in one arm, and in the other arm inject water. The heart will stop pretty quick.
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