You can tell we’re coming up the Easter in the UK – it is time for the media to take its usual interest in Christianity by finding some unorthodoxy it can promote – this year, with the full participation of the Church of England, we get the old chestnut that Judas got a bad rap. The good old BBC has shrewdly spotted that a lady vicar best known for dancing at a wedding and for appearing on a reality TV show, has exactly the credentials needed for the sort of programme they want to do on Judas. She’s not, she says, saying Judas was OK, but he was maligned:
“I don’t think any of the other disciples were whiter than white – we just probably didn’t hear about it because they were all human and we are all a bit messed up.”
I don’t know which, if any Bible, she reads, but I’d recommend she try mine, which is full of stories of the Apostles messing things up – that Peter fella doesn’t come out of the story of the crucifixion very well. We ‘don’t hear about it’ – she should get one of those Bibles on tape – I heard it there.
The current Bishop of Leeds, who never saw an unorthodox thought he didn’t like, brings up the antique notion that Judas was a revolutionary and right to be disappointed in Jesus – guess he’s too young to have heard of ‘Jesus Christ, Superstar’ then?
It is left to the dancing Rev to make the daftest comment of all:
“Jesus forgave people as they were putting the nails in to his hands and there is no reason why he would not have forgiven Judas but he just didn’t hear that.”
Not sure whom she thinks did not hear what, but perhaps she’s still doing that Anglican free-wheeling riffs off Christianity without the Bible, because Jesus seems pretty clear about his fate:
The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Not being a highly trained liturgical dancer, or a Bishop in the C of E, I’m old-fashioned enough to think these words of Jesus don’t sound good for old Judas.
Yes, Judas has a key role in the story of our Salvation. By betraying the Son of Man, he precipitates the Crucifixion – and thus the Resurrection.Some have seen in this an excuse for Judas; he was foreordained to do as he did. But St John makes it clear he had a choice – but like so many of us, he yielded to the temptations of the Devil.
Judas made a choice. Satan tempted Judas with something which appealed to his pride and ego. Whether he meant to betray Jesus to death, or simply stir up a revolution, he acted as though he knew better than Jesus. He betrayed his friend and Master for his ego. This may be the sort of thing which makes him an object of sympathy for TV clerics from the C of E, but I’ll stay with Jesus’ opinion. I wonder if the dancing vicar had one of those Gideon’s Bibles in her hotel room whilst on location? If so, shame she didn’t consult it.
If you want something sensible on the whole thing, the estimable Caroline Farrow has something good here – but then she’s an orthodox Catholic, and no doubt getting stick from the Tabletista. So, if you’re on Twitter, get in there and support the lass – she does a good job.
Good to have you back – and in such good form!
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Thanks C – things more stable at the moment.
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Good to hear.
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Yep, and I’ll second you on Carolline, She’s one of our very best. If you aren’t, follow her, and don’t miss her articles at TCW, either.
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Thank you, Neo – yes, she’s a good thing.
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That she is!
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Some people are attacking Caroline because she pointed out that suicide is a sin. Of course there are prominent Anglicans (e.g. George Carey and “Canon” Rosie Harper) who think otherwise.
Still, who are we to judge? Perhaps after all Kate Bottley can be saved.
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Perhaps they believe sin has been abolished – it has in the C of E in as far as they no longer have to renounce Satan (renamed Stan perhaps to emphasise he’s just like us?). The dancing rev, like all of us, needs saving from herself – mind you, if on the Vicar of Stiffkey had live a bit longer?
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Well, these pieces by the BBC ought to be read using the hermeneutic of dancing or the hermeneutic of broadway. In either instance it will become more clear to all you fundamentalists.
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I read them through the hermeneutic of lunacy!
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That of course is gaining quite a following among modern scholars of our day. You might be on the cutting edge my friend. It has the advantage of being available to those of us who can’t sing and dance and memorize a script.
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I’m doing one on the Rector of Stiffkey for tomorrow! Justice must be done!
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I hope you have pictures of his attire!
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I have a photo with the bare bottom of a ‘lady’ in it – all in the interests of accuracy you’ll understand 🙂
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I was thinking of his attire in Blackpool. It might be a barrel of fun. 🙂
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The back view of the ‘lady’ is more fun – take my word for it 🙂
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I will. I bow to your age and wisdom on this. 🙂
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Wise words. I recall a statistician at school saying he wanted the figures ‘broken down by age and sex’ – to which I commented ‘like the rest of us?’
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Good reply. Did it elicit a smile or did it go right over his head?
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I think the head laughed – he didn’t get it, of course.
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Presented above, but it’s quite understood that Judas is, by human reason, in Hell – by betrayal or by suicide. Servant of God, Fr. John A. Hardon, SJ, expresses this quite clearly, as it has always been believed. That is…until the rise of modernism (e.g. Hans von Balthasar, Bishop Robert Barron, &c.)
I’m willing to believe, too, that liturgical dancing is also found in Hell (maybe not the dancers, but certainly the dance) haha. 🙂
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Surely this can’t apply to that wonderful hymn, “Lord of the Dance” can it? 🙂
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I would say I’m sorry that I don’t know that hymn… but by the sound of the title, I’m not sure I am!
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O how sad! For your musical enjoyment then: https://youtu.be/HI3qXGYqHEE
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Ahh the saecular tune “simple gifts”. St Pius X and his document Tra la Sollecitudini are likely crying to Heaven for mercy right now haha
http://www.adoremus.org/MotuProprio.html
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He just didn’t understand that we were going to Sing a New Church into being:
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*click link* … *close link immediately*
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Bp. Ken “Turtleneck” Untener would be very disappointed in you. 🙂
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Thanks Michael – it’s usually a sign of liberalism when someone think Judas got a bad rap!
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Perhaps, she meant that Judas got (and therefore ‘ate’) a bad wrap (a mispelling, rendered it rap) and was suffering from a terrible case of ptomaine poisoning. In such distress, it is possible that it drove him to madness as she is now likewise being driven to madness (by eating of the same wrap during her extensive research).
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Just as I misspelt, the word misspelling in the above reply. See how easy it is?
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Not as easy as Anglican TV theology – where anything goes – except orthodoxy!
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The primary source of cutting edge theology I’m guessing.
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Yup – so sharp it cut off the branch it was sitting on.
I gather from C that some folk objected to the ad hominems – but that’s what this is all about – these loonies getting their names in print and on TV.
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It just goes to show that there is a time to every season under heaven; even ad hominems.
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I probably triggered something – maybe the realisation they need to grow up?
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What they need and what they want is clearly different, Geoffrey. 🙂
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Very true my friend.
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As a music-lover I tend to think that all rap is bad. Judas was known for singing the stuff:
I’m a traitor / But I ain’t a hater / I’ll betray you later / When I’ve eaten this potato. Yeah!
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Judas rap – top of the chart stuff there, Bruvver!
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