A confession. Like most people in the UK, I cannot take a man called Trump seriously. In this part of the world it is a euphemism for breaking wind – you might as well be ‘The Donald J Fart’. Mind you, given the amount of noxious hot air the fellow gives out, the name may be appropriate. He appears to have no control over what comes out of his mouth, so it was fun when motor mouth mogul confronted Rambling Pope Frank. Who really knows what Frank says? There’s always someone to explain it wasn’t what it looks like. He seems to have suggested that if Trump wanted to build walls, that made him no Christian. Trump exploded that there is a wall round the Vatican, and that he felt insulted. I was quite enjoying it, and then suddenly it went away.
There is little point in quoting what either man has said in the past, as they have both realised that in a 24/7 media, no one really cares, but it is interesting that the Pope seems to think he could come to a judgment about whether someone is a Christian. I can see where he’s coming from – looking after the poor and the dispossessed is quite high up on the list of things Jesus values in his followers, and he says nothing about building walls to keep them out. Mind, nor does he say anything about economic migrants. On that theme, are there any other sort? Am I wrong in thinking that, with the possible exception of the Native Americans, and the definite exception of the slaves, everyone else in the USA is descended from those who were ‘economic migrants’? If only the original inhabitants of Manhattan Island had thought of Green Cards, they might still be masters of their own land. Mind, again, if that is your example, I can see why you’d be worried.
Most ordinary folk know something has gone wrong with our societies. Those of my generation grew up in an era of social mobility – that a lad from my background to go to university at all was unusual in the previous generation, but not quite so much in mine. Now, it seems to have stuck. Some already rich people (remind me someone where Trump’s money came from?) have got richer; most of us don’t feel we have, or that our children are going to be better off than we were. In a society weaned on materialism, this really matters – after all, what other sort of yardstick exists in it? It is not as though our societies value other things. If an ‘illegal immigrant’ is going to ‘take your job’, then there’s nothing most folk have been taught that says we should look after those who have less than we do. Trump taps into the anger, and the rhetoric, he is the perfect exemplar of a society which knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
He and Pope Frank were probably motor-mouthing past each other – but at least the latter was saying something Jesus might have said. As for Trump – hot air with a noxious smell.
Concur, and now we find ourselves in the spot that it is entirely possible that we will find ourselves in the position of choosing a president between a man on trial for fraud or a woman under FBI investigation for major national security violations. I don’t think that is quite what my great grandparents had in mind when they left Norway to come here, nor did any honest person – then or now!
I’m reminded of a quote from Frank Chodorov:
“There was a time, in these United States, when a candidate for public office could qualify with the electorate only by fixing his birthplace in or near the ‘log cabin.’ He may have acquired a competence, or even a fortune, since then, but it was in the tradition that he must have been born of poor parents and made his way up the ladder by sheer ability, self-reliance, and perseverance in the face of hardship. In short, he had to be ‘self made’ The so-called Protestant Ethic then prevalent held that man was a sturdy and responsible individual, responsible to himself, his society, and his God. Anybody who could not measure up to that standard could not qualify for public office or even popular respect.”
That thinking is how we got where we are, and the lack of it will destroy us.
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NEO, help me out. We all know of Hillary’s problems, but would you point out who has Trump in court on fraud charges, or what they may have grounds for (fraud wise) in the next 8 months. The man has taken a company worth about $100 million in the seventies to a personal worth of about $9 billion over a span of 40 years. He is known for calling his sons and daughter early on Saturdays to make sure they are working, as he is. He owns many companies that are successful and some that have not done nearly as well (I am assuming that each real estate deal or development is a separate company). Yes, the man has had 3 wives in those 40 years, but neither of his former wives seem to hate or even dislike him. All of his kids seem to be well adjusted and successful, and none of them are estranged from him. Trump seems to do nothing but work. He is not known as a golfer, sailor, or a reader of great literature, although he has written many books. He is known for making deals with others that benefit all parties evolved, and has been paid well for doing so.
So, where is the fraud?
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Sure. Trump University, pretty good size class action suit for making false claims how he would make his students rich etc. Coming out of discovery and about ready to be scheduled, or so I read.
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Thanks NEO. Although every law school in this country in the last 10 years could be sued for the same. How about all those beauty, culinary, welding, and real estate schools? Lots of teaching going on but no jobs. But, you are correct about this, I have read about it also.
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Yeah, if I understand, he left off the disclaimer that all those other plaster all over (in 4 point type). Keeps the lawyers out of ur business, at any rate! 🙂
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Wall Street used have a wall…
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Actually Wall St. used to be a wall -to keep the lobsterbacks out! 🙂
Well actually I think think it was an earthen berm.
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A lot of hot air is produced in every election and ‘divide and conquer’ has a long history.
Moving jobs abroad for tax reasons created huge resentment among the dispossessed in the USA. Obama promised the people bloom and boom. Now Trump is doing the same.
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SSM passed in Italy. From article on Rarate-Caeli:
“After the disastrous papal interview in the flight from Mexico, in which His Holiness all but called the Italian Church to remain silent on the bill (because he would not venture into political matters, though he did exactly that regarding the United States presidential elections in the very same interview), the Bishops backed down, and the conservative group that was holding back the bill in the Senate (led by Catholic Senator Alfano), made a backroom deal to make the bill “palatable”. The Cirinnà bill became the new Alfano bill, with the removal of a few details (particularly regarding adoption and some legal references to marriage), but the greatest portion of the bill remained substantially unchanged.”
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Honestly, I am so sorry for faithful Catholics. I have stopped writing about this Pope – he’s a disaster area.
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“Most ordinary folk know something has gone wrong with our societies”
This might be off topic, but not by far. It seems the American catholic church, starting with the costume, I mean the archcostume of St Louis has excommunicated the Girl Scouts. Now here is the part that got me to let out a side splitting guffaw……..The St Louis CC has created its own brand of girls scouts as an alternative to the real girl scouts. Its hard for me to type while engaged in hysterics.
Catholic Committee for Girls Formation. This is what the CC has to replace the girl scouts.
I take back everything I said about the CC. It is a laugh a minute. I can see some up tight pent up prune face nuns running this committee for young girls. I guess, that would be a good thing for parents to use to get their young girls to behave. Threahten to send them to the catholic girls committee. That outta make em fly rite. (;-D
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Are you dyslexic perhaps? Nobody was excommunicated . . . perhaps a voice told you that and you inserted it into the concerns that were expressed concerning the change in culture that has infiltrated the Girl Scouts. They are all being taught ‘feminism’ these days; contraception, abortion, gay sex, SSM etc. This is not what the Girl Scouts were created to do . . . and so alternatives to the Girl Scouts are beginning to show up. Is that surprising? Many concerned parents are looking for options no matter what their religious beliefs are. It so happens that Catholics have suggested their own alternative. I think you are proving, once again how much you lie and distort everything you read and pass it off as gospel. And you wonder why people like me don’t want you here anymore. You bring this site down into gutter of innuendo and lies. We really don’t find a contribution for you to make here.
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I think my report is accurate. The St Louis CC wont let the Girl Scouts meet in their rec rooms anymore and have distanced themselves from them. I called that excommunicated. And its true the St Louis CC has created a alternative org to the Scouts. I think the only reason you get upset is because I, Bosco, presented it.
I feel honored. For so they treated my Lord befor me.
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If you want to know what is accurate go the Website of the Archdiocese of St. Louis. To deny a group that teaches things which go against Church teaching access to Church property for their meetings is not excommunication. You might want to look up the word so that you won’t continue to be so ignorant of its meaning.
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Oh, by the way…the girl scouts has become a scam. it sells millions of dollars of their nasty dry flavorless cookies and the girls get nothing. But, it gives the girls something to do and a purpose.
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Bosco, don’t you wish you had something to do and a purpose? Lord knows we do.
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