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‘Love one another, as I have loved you’, was the command of Jesus to his disciples; men would know we were his followers by the love we bore one for another. So hard is that commandment that our sinful nature rebels at it. This rebellion takes a number of forms. One is essentially sectarian: we are commanded to love only other Christians/other members of our Church. To spin that from the parable of the Good Samaritan and the Prodigal Son, requires some effort, but mankind has usually been up to it. Another line is to insist on conditional love: love is to be given to those have deserved it by their repentance. That is a natural human reaction, but ignores the fact that God loved us first – even before we repent – and continues to love us, even when we continue to err and stray like lost sheep. If we drew from this the conclusion that we find it very difficult to love one another as Christ loves us, we would be correct; the effort to do so does, however, make us more Christ-like, not least because it requires us to abnegate the selfishness which makes us put ourselves first: the other must be or do something in order to be worth our love. That is not how Christ’s love works, and it must not be how our love works.
One of the ways in which our fallen nature processes the command to love one another is that it adds the adjective ‘tough’ to the noun ‘love’; it is a good way to justify our tendency to compound for the sins we do not commit by condemning them in others, and it has, of course, some justification in as far as we are commanded to hate the sin and admonish the sinner; that our fallen natures often make it look as those we hate the sinner, not least to the sinner, does not help maters But what might ‘tough love’ mean for us? Its meaning is clear. Christ told us to love those who hate us and to turn the other cheek to those who strike us – now that really is tough love; so tough most of us cannot get anywhere near it – I know I struggle and fail with it. We who counsel ‘tough love’, can we practice this?
God is love. The Holy Trinity is a unity of love, Father, Son and Holy Spirit pour out a love that creates the heavens and the earth and which creates us and reaches out to redeem us. It is a mark of the Fall that we should have fallen so far from love – and yet a mark of the image in which we are made that we should have it at all; we are not so fallen that we cannot love each other, family and friends. Perhaps that is why Jesus emphasises to us that when we pray, we should call God ‘Father’. We can grasp the love of a father for a child, just as we can grasp love in the context of marriage. Christ feeds us what we can digest, and He knows that is difficult enough for us; to go beyond that would be too much for us.
God created the world in love, and it is through love he has redeemed it. His love is poured out on all of us, although so many reject it. In a world where love has been reduced to something far less than it is, and where it has been cheapened by over use, we can forget that love is not just about a feeling, but it is about a relationship. Relationships demand time and energy on our part, too. How much time do we give to our relationship with our Heavenly Father? How much time do we spend in silence and prayer with Him? Witnessing us in our daily lives, would the world see in us that love which marks us as His children? If not, what will we do about it?
And how much time do we spend pointing out the same sins that Heaven has condemned in us . . . as did Christ, the Apostles and the Prophets? That too is a measure of God’s love for us that he would condemn our sinful actions so that we might know what it is that we should feel shame for and repent and what things we should do to be sons and daughters. Much of this ‘hard love’ aspect in life today is fueled but those who do now want their consciences to condemn their actions; therefore, we have quit or are reluctant to preach such a message under the guise of tolerance and love. If that were the message we would never correct our children and we would only read the parts out of the Scriptures that lift up our self-love and approval for who we are and what we have become. What we condemn the world for, we need to condemn within ourselves as well; that is the balance that a real and caring love of souls requires. Indifference, masked as love, is still indifference, as is hatred masked in the fog of unconditional tolerance for sin.
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Indeed, my friend, that too – if we are to be properly connected with the vine, we need pruning too 🙂
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Here in the US we see we often see this indifference to etiquette and socially acceptable behavior. Where in the past a loudmouth speaking obscenities where other diners are trying to eat meals with their families would have been confronted by the other patrons or escorted to the door by the establishment; it doesn’t happen anymore and we are becoming cruder and cruder in our behavior while we become thick skinned and tolerant of running into this kind of thing. There comes a time, if you want to preserve civility, that it must be policed by each and every one of us. The public debates over morality should be weighed in upon by our churches and stood up for at the pulpit . . . whether it is popular or not. It is still love of order over disorder in both the physical and supernatural realm. Seems not many are even willing to try to do this anymore.
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One of the problems here, and it may be the same with you, is the easy resort to lawyers – tell someone off and you’re liable to be slapped with a lawyer’s bill.
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That may true as well though it would be more likely for an altercation resulting in fisticuffs these days.
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Ah, well here, that would certainly have the lawyers rubbing their paws 🙂
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No doubt, here too. 🙂
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Aye, say, that dude in the above pic isn’t doing the hand sign. No blessings for him.
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You are a great witness to the spirit in you.
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Bosco, this is what the art work that Chalcedon chose for this post means to me, I am quoting directly from Chalcedon’s post today and I am sure he would like for you to benefit from the beauty of his words and the art work he chose. Chalcedon wrote:
“God is love. The Holy Trinity is a unity of love, Father, Son and Holy Spirit pour out a love that creates the heavens and the earth and which creates us and reaches out to redeem us.”
Do you see this in the painting? Do you see an artistic attempt to teach us of a spiritual reality, namely, that God pours out his love to create heaven, earth, you, me, Chalcedon and everyone else, and also pours out the love that redeems us all?
Does your heart grow in love for all that your creator has done for you?
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Its a blood and guts war out there. I don’t see doodly squat in a painting. The devil is in a no holds bar fight for your soul. While you sit around staring at a painting or bowing befor a graven image, satan is jockeying for yor soul. You think philosophies are going to make god smile on you. If he doesn’t know you…you are left to yourself, for eternity.
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The reason we find it so difficult to believe you, Bosco,is that there is not the slightest echo of the voice of Christ in anything you say.
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You wouldn’t happen to be skirting the question would you? Do you accept God’s outstretched arms of love or not?
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Out stretched arm of love?Youve got to be joking. You must mean the plaster cast of Marys out stretched arms.
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Good one! But no, that is not what I mean. Can you answer my question?
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Bosco, do you believe that God reaches out his arms of love to you?
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Yes, I know gods arms are out to every man.
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It’s one thing to know it, it’s another thing to run and accept that love. The beloved apostle was close to the heart of Jesus and is often depicted as leaning his head on the heart of Jesus. It is an image worth contemplating in a silent, prayerful way.
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Images.
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Yes Bosco, images. Images can be painted with words and I assumed you knew that since you claim to be familiar with God’s Holy Word.
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I know god personally. Im not just familiar with his words. Thank you.
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Yes, I am aware that you know a god. But the true God of SCripture is Truth and Beauty and Wisdom, which you consistently mock and despise.
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Hello Chalcedon. Nice essay. Today was First Holy Communion for our children and it was beautiful. The love of the innocent is so pure and untainted by sin, it really moves me when I see them receive for their first time. It always brings tears to my eyes and today was no exception. Love waiting for His children to love Him in Communion. I thought I’d share. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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You should have tears in your eyes for those kids…because if they die in that false religion, they are going to spend eternity in hell.
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Since no one before you has ever espoused what you espouse, and billions have espoused what Christ’s Church espoused, either you are going to be very lonely in heaven – or you are going to need an asbestos diving suit.
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Only a few are going to heaven. Your 1.2 billion are gonna wake up in hell. Compliments of the CC
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A few out of all the numbers who have lived is still a great many.
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True. A few of all who lived are many.
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Many of us weep for you, Bosco, and your profound ignorance. You are far from God.
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I am very sorry for him, Zeke. His spirit seems suffused with malice and hatred – these are not the fruits of the Spirit. He should heed what St Paul says in Romans 2:7-10. As he judges, so he will be judged.
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Yes, he is clearly motivated by hatred and it has warped his spirit and hardened his heart. Too bad he took God’s gift to him (if he ever received it) and twisted and perverted it. That is why he sees perversion where ever he looks.
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It seems so, alas. I do wish he would read Romans prayerfully – the beginning of Chapter 2 seems aimed right at him.
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Sadly he will only reply that he doesn’t need to read it because he already has it memorized and doesn’t bow down to graven images or eat crackers. 😉
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You think I haven’t read the NT? Its not the text that saves. The text speaks of Christ. And hes invisible.
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The text speaks of the fruit of the Spirit (1 Cor 13 most famously) and you show zero sign of any of the fruits. So why should we believe you when you claim to be full of the Spirit? You are full of hatred, smallness and nastiness – none of those are of God.
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Good brother Zek is a fast learner. he knows what im going to say befor I say it.
I do have it memorized and I don’t bow befor idols and I don’t need no crackers.
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Yes Boso, I know all your tricks.
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My tricks. I do have the Nt kinda memorized, that’s cause ive read it so many freakin times, and almost all of the OT. except for the boring ones….deut and numbers.
hey good brother Zeke, munch down hard on those crackers while you go face first to the dirt befor your fave Mary graven image. Jesus spoke of little else.
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Thanks for sharing Bosco. Perhaps you could pray for them. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Thank you for sharing such a special moment – I pray that they stay and grow in their faith.
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Your horned catholic god erased my comment, and it was a good one. Graven images and all and gay priests while the CC condemns priests who gaff females are terminated while homo priests are OK.
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Yet again, you condemn a whole institution for the sins of individuals. By that standard, your one-man faith stands utterly condemned – unless, of course, you lead a sinless life? I’m betting you don’t, so either you are a hypocrite, or worse; which is it?
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Im talking about a religion, not individuals. All men are sinners. But why be part of a false cult that is nothing but a beast? I understand that the unsaved will do anything. But when people who claim to know scripture bow befor idols, and love those who do the same, I wonder about their sanity.
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Because it is not ‘just a beast’ as anyone not blinded by the spirit of Satan would know. When someone who claims to know Scripture and do obviously bears fruits the opposite of those in 1 Cor 13, we know who inspires him. You are not God’s Bosco, you are the Devil’s, and it is not your sanity which is at stake, but your salvation. You will be judged by what you have done (Romans 1:7, 10) – so be afraid, Bosco, be very afraid.
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Youre rite again. Im very afraid. Every day brings me closer to the afterlife. But im assured salvation by the blood.
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Yet, in Matthew 25:31-46, and James 2:14-26 we are shown that those who have been saved by the blood can lose that salvation by their misdeeds. Beware that is not you Bosco.
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Yes, Bosco that Holy Blood will do it’s work in your poor soul as soon as you take your body to a confessional and follow some good orderly directions and make a good confession. Then that Holy Blood shed for you can do the works for which it has been shed – it can then pay the price you owe for your sins. Until you do your part, God cannot do His. Many are called – few are chosen. Hear His words and repent of your madness. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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I wish to thank you good sister, for showing me the way to salvation. It shows you care and are spreading your faith.
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Bosco I think the idol you bow before is your own thoughts. You think you know more than two thousand years of Christians because you cherry picked a verse or two from the Scriptures that tell you what you want to hear, namely that you are right and the billions of Catholics world-wide who love and honor God are all wrong. You throw stones constantly, reviling the things of God. I heard on the Catholic radio yesterday something you should’ve heard. A man was talking about the beauty of Christian art in our places of worship and how these great works evangelized silently for all the years that folks gazed upon them. He called them a catechizing tool the Holy Spirit can use to turn hearts and minds towards higher things. And Bosco, since Beauty is one of the Divine Attributes, it should be acknowledged by man. Here is something you should think about from the Good Book: Wisdom 13:5 5 For from the greatness and the beauty of created things their original author, by analogy, is seen. That’s Scripture Bosco dear. Beauty is a reflection of it divine Author. It speaks of God without uttering one little word. In the silence of one’s heart is found wisdom. I hope you get some soon. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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You know what good sister, me personally, I get inspired by looking at pictures of holymen and events. I have since I was little. Christmas pictures of the manger and things my mother put out and my grandmother put out. her things were more and nicer than ours and I loved going to her house during Christmas time. I still think fondly of those times. Personally, I love the religious works of the masters.
Now, step back and take a sober look. The prots don’t use statues. Not at all. if they own a figurine, its just that…a figurine. But the CC is all about images and statues. Sure they look majestic. But god has said they are wicked. Making them is corruption. You should be wary of a religion that supports imagery and provides statues and soft knee benches so as to be comfortable while bowing befor them. You think youre so smart. But you belong to an idolatrous cult. How smart is that? Jesus , here on earth, is invisible. And he stands at your door.
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Bosco, if you didn’t believe God was contained in the Blessed Sacrament and actually visible upon our altars, then you wouldn’t be so happy about calling Him a cracker. You do know He is there and that we know it or you wouldn’t throw stones about it. It wouldn’t even bother you at all. Me thinketh thou protest too much. You do know He is there just as he said He would be, until the end of the ages. That is why you make such a fuss about it. Same thing with our supposed graven images. If they really were evil, you wouldn’t care, but since they aren’t and you know it, they are fair game. People don’t bother about things that don’t bother them and if those things aren’t real, then they don’t bother about them. Yet here you are going on and on and on and on about the same ole things: graven images depicting all things Catholic and the Blessed Sacrament. You know Who is contained in that “cracker” as you so lovingly refer to our Blessed Lord. Otherwise you wouldn’t bother about it at all. You also know Whose message and purpose is furthered by religious art and desiring to work against God, you have to make fun of it. But if it did nothing, it wouldn’t bother you a bit and you wouldn’t have to bother about it. No, Bosco. You’ve goofed. Your constant whining and stone throwing actually belies you belief. You do believe, you’ve simply rejected Him and need to act out the consequences of such a rejection and work against him. Now, the devil’s shoes are already filled. Whose footsteps are you trying to follow in? Give it up and accept the Mercy of God. Jesus died for you and loves you. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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But you are not a Priest in that you aren’t Ordained. Falsifying such things is a grave sin and has certain Canonical penalties attached./
Wow. You cathols really believe that cracker stuff. Well, worster stuff is out there. Keep eating that cracker.
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Well good sister ginny, that’s a nice try. I don’t feel the statues and icons are evil. They are just stone and cement and oil on canvas. I throw the stones at the practices of the religion. The use of statues to direct prayers or what ever they do for you. That’s high treason. I tell you this to warn you. Many if not most catholics are very good and nice and generous people. I have no beef with them. Heck, my idiot girlfriend is a catholic(used to be catholic). As to god being the cracker, you know, what ever floats yer boat. My god is a consuming fire. Its said that he can hold the entire universe in the span of his hand. And heaven is in the hearts of the saved. Heaven is his throne and the earth is his foot stool. Yet you think he crawls into that little monsterance. Once one gets saved, the baloney melts away. just hurry and get yourself saved.
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Bosco, the only thing you’ve saved yourself from is having to get out from between warm blankets on Sunday morning and head for the shower to get ready for Mass. Big deal. And that is about all your are saved from. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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That magic act you call mass. Hocus et pocus, now this cracker is god. Did you know the roman pagan ceremony was almost the exact same routine? I mean, the mass started in rome, and its priests were pagan priests with new names. They just renamed everything. You’ve been had.
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Erased your comment? Truthfully? Are you making things up? Must you always blame the computer when you are backed into a corner?
Whose horns?
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I had a news story with a nice comment at the end and when I pressed post, it was gone. It must have been the catholic god protecting you.
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There is only one God, Bosco, and the sooner you get to worshipping him, the better for your soul.
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What? Do you have a guilty conscience about your post that disappeared?
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yes, there are a few times I regret slamming my friends here with their wicked priests and clergy. I know they are tired of it, and or already know it. But one day, they will crawl into their Roman temple and look around and say….wow, Bosco was rite…this is nothing but horse hockey.
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No, we see the father of lies in you, feel sorry for you and pray for you. Unlike you, the Spirit in us bears that sort of fruit – you just give off sour grapes.
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Erased your comment? Truthfully? Are you making things up? Must you always blame the computer when you are backed into a corner?
Whose horns?
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Reposted this comment to Bosco where it belongs.
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My computer must have a virus. Its all kinda crazy.
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A Dominican priest has been removed from his post after an internal church investigation confirmed a complaint a woman first made to the archdiocese of Chicago about her relationship with him.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/573395/brendan-curran-pilsen-priest-removed
Pedophile and homosedxual priests are protected and made archbishops. But if you roll in the hay with a female, youre out on your ear.
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“And the fruits of the spirit in Bosco are malice, lies, smearing and an interest in porn”
Query: which spirit offers such fruits? God’s or Satan’s?
You are Satan’s, Bosco, he has you and will drag you down with him.
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Why do you keep insisting that I have a interest in porn? True, I love the female body. But porn is invasive.
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Those of us who know Jesus can smell it in you, as we can the smell of the father of lies. Deny it all you like Bosco, but you know what you do.
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You can smell it in me. Hahahahahaha. Good nose. I do love the female form. And I never cheated on my wife, not once. You cant turn on the computer without getting light to heavy porn.. Even news stories have naked girls. That’s probably why I like them.
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Odd that, Bosco, I can turn on my computer without getting any porn. Never cheated on your wife, not once, eh? What did Jesus say about one who looked at another woman with lust in his heart? Or isn’t that in the Bosco Bible?
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Yes, Its hard not to see beauty in the kind of girl one likes.I don’t want every female I see. Ive been training myself for yrs now to see a person in need of salvation instead of seeing a body. it works 99% of the time.
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I used to go to dating sites. So I get dating adds all th time, plus the boys are in porn stuff all the time. maybe you don’t get adds, but I do. I don’t care how old I get, ill never pay for one of those sites.
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You’ve still not reminded us of what Jesus said about he who looks at another woman with lust. What’s wrong, Bosco, so quick to lay into the sins of others, but slow to admit your own. Romans 2:1-4 apply.
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I met my girlfriend in yahoo dating. Weve been together for 12 yrs.
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I’m glad for you, Bosco, and hope you will both continue to be happy.
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Slow to admit my sins? how many times have I said that I am chief amongst sinners? And that I am no better than any murderer or pedophile priest. Ive broken the commandments. And when I get out of bed, I plan to break some more befor going to work. that doesn’t mean im gonna speak nice about a wicked religion.
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You offer now proof the religion is ‘wicked’, you simply tell us there are sinners, like you, in it. How does the existence of sinners mean a religion is ‘wicked’? Try making some sense – just for once.
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Good brother Chalcedon, me thinks you have tarried at the Beefeaters too long. Oh, I think I know kinda what youre getting at. I point out the wickedness and you say its because there are sinners in the CC. No no no. Its the religion and its practices that recruit wicked men. Everyone is a sinner. But a religion chock full of graven images is a wicked cult. Costume holymen and Babylonian symbols and pagan holidays. This is good brother Nimrods false one world religion. And its priests are priests of Baal.
Why do I say this? its for the record. You cant tell god you didn’t know. You, I believe will wind up saved, but many here will want to say…….why didn’t you warn me?
I Bosco the Great, have warned you all. Know ye not that the saints shall judge the world? I have done my job…I have warned you vipers.
Good sister Jess was born to be a vehicle for the salvation of souls. She started this site. It was not started in vain.
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You say it because your mind is darkened. You have been warned, and at the Last, hen you say “Lord, it’s me, Bosco, I’m saved’ he will say ‘I know you not.’
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Yes, Bosco. Some are sicker than others. I suppose if you believe all Priests of God are just like this one……………but they aren’t. Not by a long shot. Ever read the story of Father Vincent Capodonno? I don’t expect you’ll follow the link to the story, so I’ll post some of it here. He was the Grunt Padre. He’s a Saint and a good sailor. By acknowledging a totally different vocational ministry, he sought permission to join the Navy Chaplain Corps intending to serve the increasing number of Marine troops in Vietnam. Eventually Maryknoll granted this request, and after finishing Officer Candidate School, during Holy Week of 1966, Father Capodanno reported to the 7th Marines in Vietnam. As the chaplain for the battalion, his immediate focus was the young enlisted troops or “Grunts.” Later transferred to a medical unit, Father Capodanno was more than a priest ministering within the horrific arena of war. He became a constant companion to the Marines: living, eating, and sleeping in the same conditions of the men. He established libraries, gathered and distributed gifts and organized outreach programs for the local villagers. He spent hours reassuring the weary and disillusioned, consoling the grieving, hearing confessions, instructing converts, and distributing St. Christopher medals. Such work “energized” him, and he requested an extension to remain with the Marines. It was during his second tour on September 4, 1967, with the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines that Father Vincent Capodanno made the ultimate sacrifice. After hours of heavy fighting from a North Vietnamese ambush, Father Capodanno, himself seriously injured, sighted a wounded corpsman pinned down by an enemy machine gunner. He ran to the Marine and administered medical and spiritual attention. Despite being unarmed, the enemy opened fire and Father Capodanno, the victim of 27 bullet wounds, died faithfully performing his final act as a good and faithful servant of God.
Here’s the link: http://www.milarch.org/site/c.dwJXKgOUJiIaG/b.6597059/k.D667/Fr_Capodanno_Biography_Archdiocese_for_Military_Services.htm
Read his story and weep Bosco. God is served by a few good men and women.
God bless. Ginnyfree.
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I take it he died catholic. that’s reason to cry. And these saint Christopher medals. I heard of them. More catholic trinkets. Oh well, if one is in a religion, one believes what it has to offer. cant fault you for that.
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Lies. is the news story false? Didn’t the Jesuit pope just make a pedophile a archbishop in Chile a archbishop? And now a priest who gaffed a girl is tossed out. And the best you can do is call me a liar? That’s easy. All men are liars. Now what are you going to do? tell your priest that everything is fine now because you told off Bosco. yes, oh my priest…you can get back to boffing the alter boys because I put Bosco in his place. All is well. Cherrio. Carry on Pip pip.
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Your trick is clear, you smear the many with the crimes of a few – that is where the lie is Bosco. Your father in spirit taught you well. You met a demon pretending to be Jesus, and he has fooled you, using your own pride and ignorance to keep you in chains. I pray for your mind to be enlightened.
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Crimes of a few. Your Holy Father appointed a pedophile to be archbishop in Chile. this isn’t any ol few. Its the head man.
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That is certainly what some of the press and the critics say. You, as good follower of the Spirit, have, of course, carefully investigated this before writing as you do. Or is this another fruit of the real spirit in you – easy resort to reports you treat as fact because the beam in your eye.
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There are hundreds of people protesting the archbishop in the city he is in. personally, im glad. Im glad catholics get gay and pedophile prists. Im not upset. Im over joyed to see idolaters get what they deserve.
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In other words, no, you are simply reporting gossip and what the man’s opponents say. Just what Jesus would do, or just what the father of lies would do? We can tell you you follow by the fruit you bring forth.
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Why would catholics be opposed to their archbishop? And what opponents would he have inside the clergy that would rally against him? Isnt it one big gay happy family? You think the people are just mistaken? Good brother, is there a chance that you joined a bad religion? Your own sons don’t follow the CC Its not like im all alone in this,
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Do you live in a bubble, Bosco? Do you imagine every Catholic agrees with every other Catholic any more than every American agrees with every other American?
My view is simple, I don’t know enough about this to comment, and the press I can get access to don’t either. Whenever I have had anything to do with the press, I have never found its reporters to be fans of accuracy over sensationalism. They rely on people like you who go for the clickbait.
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Ok, now you are standing on thefact that the newsies are sensationalist mongers.You are rite. I give you plenty of credit. in college, we are not taught everything. We are taught how to learn. Some news I pay no attention to. but now a days, the story is just an account. One has to put their own spin on it. Ever read the pentagon papers? Ellsburg took news stories and put them in the correct order….not the order they were released. Nixon had him jailed. But now, people have cameras and news travels fast. No time to delay in order to trick the public.
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Which is precisely why anyone who confesses the name of Jesus, the name that is above all names, should be careful when spreading stuff from the Press. Romans 2:8-9 should be borne in mind, Bosco.
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Ok, then whats his name didn’t spend the nite with that prostitute.
Bishop Edy Long didn’t have those 3 young boyfriends, along with countless others that haven’t come forth. The Paula White wasn’t caught with Benny Hinn In Rome.
Then whats his name, leader of the big mega church wasn’t caught with a male hooker and amphetamines.
Boy, im glad all that is false. I was getting worried .
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No doubt some men have sinned Bosco. As one who has committed adultery in his heart, I’d have thought you’d be sympathetic – what with you being saved and all that.
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Yes, ive commited adultery in my heart. But I keep my body from following. I don’t have young boys I have sex with. Or even girls. id love to I guess, but ive gotten over that. Ive bridled my body. I think.
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Check out what the real Jesus had to say on the subject – he didn’t say it was fine as long as your body didn’t follow. Guess you also missed the marriage bit before you fornicated. You do know the meaning of the word fornication? Check our Romans 1 to see what God thinks of fornicators.
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Fortunate for you good brother, is that your sons are standing on the promise. That means, one day you will be saved. You are part of their house.
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It is written that thous shalt not tempt the Lord your God. If you have a bargain with someone about your ‘house’ at your request, that won’t be God you have a deal with. You and your house will be dwelling in the lake of fire – hope they remember to thank you.
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Its not a bargain. I offer no compensation. Its a promise made to the saved.
I don’t know why catholics don’t think god has any power. Their god is a cracker in a golden cage looking out. Why don’t they bring the sick and lame for him to heal? I mean, its god sitting there.
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No, it was a promise God made specifically to Abram – not the saved. Do tell us where Jesus and the Gospels promise this.
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30and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
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The household is those who are with him – that is not the same as the promise to Abram about his ‘house’ – which is a promise to his descendants. Interesting that you believe that you don’t have to believe to be saved. Are you saying you can be saved by someone else’s belief?
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All I know is I trusted god to lead my daughter to himself. She is my house. And now she is a follower. God delivered as he promised.
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I stood on the promise that my house would be saved, And now my only child is searching for the God of Moses. Not the god of the golden cup or the jehovas or Mormons god. She seeks my god.
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God does not accept bargains, Bosco. The Devil, why he, on the other hand, will pretend to be Jesus and will accept any old bargain as long as he gets your soul. Show me where, in Scripture, any Apostle of Jesus cuts a deal with God?
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Abraham cut 2 deals. God said if he leaves his land and goes to some far off place, he will be his god and make him a great nation. then Abraham makes god spare Sodom long enough to get one family out befor tearing it up. jesus said…heres the deal….if you follow me, ill make you fishers of men.
Jesus said, Open the door, if you do, he will come in. That’s the deal.
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Abraham was not an Apostle. You are not Abraham. You’ve been duped by the Devil Bosco. Show me one example in the NT of anyone cutting a deal with God where they say they want something. The one you quote – fishers of men – is God offering men something.
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Why wasn’t Abe an apostle? he knew Jesus befor Matthew was born. Apostle is just a word. All those who know Jesus are saints. Not just the pedophiles the CC says are saints. The CC says More the murderer is a saint. Why don’t you drop the Cc and open the door. All who do are saints. Don’t let the CC deprive you of sainthood.
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I see you cannot find a single NT example. Are you such a megalomaniac you think you are Abraham?
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Bosco, so you know the word apostle means someone who has been sent. Read Matthew 28:18-20 Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” That’s God sending the Apostles out to do His will, to teach all nations to do all that God commanded them to do and to Baptize them. Here it is in Greek: Απόστολος. All those cute wiggly letters mean someone you aren’t Bosco. You’re just a foolish clown. Wise up. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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Im a priest and a King in the house of the Lord. Any thing you care to add to that….good sister?
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Hello Bosco. You are right. Here is a bit from Cardinal Dulles on the Priesthood: “Article 10 of Lumen Gentium declares that there are in the church two essentially different types of priesthood, both of them participations in the priestly office of Christ. The first is the general or common priesthood of all the faithful……This common priesthood belongs to the whole people of God, not simply to the laity. Lay persons share the common priesthood with clergy and religious…..After discussing the common priesthood, LG 10 takes up the ministerial or hierarchical priesthood, which it describes predominantly in terms of its sacred functions: the sacred power that reaches it apex in the offering of the eucharistic sacrifice in the person of Christ and in the name of the whole people….The ministerial priesthood involves a public representational function rather than a personal giftedness.” Avery Cardinal Dulles, S.J. The Priestly Office: A Theological Reflection (pgs. 10-11)
The Priesthood of Christ is of two types, as I’ve discussed with you before. We participate in Christ’s priesthood as laypersons when we do our part at Mass and in other ways, such as in evangelization and teaching our children. This is exercising the common priesthood of all the faithful. So, when you say you are a part of this, you are correct. But you are not a Priest in that you aren’t Ordained. Falsifying such things is a grave sin and has certain Canonical penalties attached. So don’t go there at all Mr. Bosco the Great Clown. You’ve already made too many mistakes. Let’s not add to your list. It could take you three full hours in the box as it is now. Okay? God bless. Ginnyfree.
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I just did bosco, but it appears elswhere here. You’ll a have to look for it. God bless. Ginnyfree.
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hahahahahahahaha.. Im not crawling into a box with some fag catholic priest. Get a grip on yourself sister ginny.
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Ah but Bosco, you forgot you told me you were a stray. So at some point in your life you did go to Confession. Then some horrid thing happened at Christmas in 1971 and you’ve attributed all your personal wrath to that event and it has taken you from the One Fold that God will’s there to be. Your choice is depriving you of the very Salvation you claim you have, but the truth is you refuse His entrance back into your life. You claim God knocks on the door of hearts through you, but the truth is that He has been knocking on the door to your heart here and elsewhere through his faulty family friends here at AATWT and other places, yet it is YOU who won’t let Him in. YOU BOSCO! You do the things you accuse us of. You render obedience to useless persons and things instead of God. You revile Him in the person of the Saints and His servants. You mock the true devotions of others, and here I will say that is pure jealousy speaking. These are all they ways you supposedly render obedience to your chosen religion. Yet as Chalcedon and SD’s patient tolerance of your rants has shown you, your chosen religion is defenseless and useless. You poor man. I can only hope you turn your life over to Jesus for healing. He waits for you patiently as well. GOd bless. Ginnyfree.
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I went to a few catholic services but I never did that confession thing. You know, I don’t think I even knew about confession booths back then.
A lady went into a confession booth. The priest said….time to confess our sins. the lady said…you first.
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I have a name for that preacher who was caught with a prostitute. I kept calling him whats his name. Its Jimmy Swegert. I was watching him when he mentioned it. I figured he was trying to con us. he said a prostitute came to his room for guidance. Like he was Jesus turning the heart of Mary. The next week it came out that he had hired her. I used to watch him every sunday. So, he stood there crying and all that, but he refused to step down. I didn’t want him to step down. He can be forgiven. What happened was…. he ruined another preacher by exposing his doings. So that ruined preacher followed him around until he caught Jimmy with his pants down and exposed him. hahahahahahaha. Don’t ya love it.?
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No I do not love it. I do not delight in other’s sins or misfortunes. I do not mock or deride those who struggle and fall. We are all sinners and in need of mercy and grace. Your words and sentiments are cruel and un-Godly. Shame on you Bosco, shame on you.
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No, oddly enough I take no pleasure in Satan’s triumphs; only his followers do that.
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Come on guys….lighten up. Jimmy wast cryin into his mai tai when he was rollin with that hunny bunny for rent. he was havin a great time. No need to feel sorry for him. he only shed crocodile tears when he was caught.
What was high comedy was that the guy he ruined turned around and caught Jimmy doing the same thing. He knew Jimmy was doing it but wanted to get pictures.
Heck, nobody died. it made Swegart more popular. Don’t hand me that…shame on Bosco routine. It was hilarious. (;-D
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No one died – perhaps to your spirit the death of the soul is a funny thing? Wouldn’t surprise me overmuch.
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We need more preachers exposing each other. (;-D
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hey good brother Chalcedon, I didn’t have my head screwed on tight the other day.You said that I should be sympathetic to those preachers that got busted, becasuse im a sinner too. Not so fast bucko. When one stands up in front of the congregation week after week and spouts off his disdain for wrong doing, that one should at least be faithful to his wife. get drunk, talk crazy, gamble. Ah, no big fat deal. But buy a prostitute? There had to be a girl for free somewhere when youre that famous.
Now the second preacher…cant remember his name, head of like the largest mega church. He was rabid anti gay. yet he was caught paying for male sex and doing amphetamines in hotel rooms. Personally, yes, I believe hes a brother sinner. But hes gay while he harasses gays? I thought that was the exclusive domain of the catholic clergy. He was cheating on his wife….with a man. I don’t have sympathy for men who cheat on wives. I never did. I honored god to much to do that. And its a simple thing not to cheat. These men are dogs, animals. And I doubt if they are born again.
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I didn’t say one should be sympathetic to them for their crimes, I said that as a Christian one ought to be sorry for them and pray for their repentance.
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You really just don’t get it, do you Bosco.
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I guess I don’t get it. Im not as smart as you. Youre so smart you belong to a cult of costumes and graven images. Yeah, smart guy. Now get back down befor that crying plaster cast. Bow long and low Mt Smart Guy.
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Good one, Bosco! Tell me, do you tell your sister that she is bowing down to idols when she studies art?
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What time is it where you are?
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