I greatly enjoyed and learned a lot from our guest contributor on ISIS and the Moslem view generally. I hope she will return. But it made me think, I doubt they understand what the American people think either, so maybe I should write a bit on that. Last summer in a post on our blog Jess said this:
Neo’s blog is a window on the world. He is part of an America which many of us admire, but which many foreigners (and quite a few Americans) never visit – the ‘fly-over States’. I spent a year in the mid-West twenty years ago, and retain a fondness for it and all it represents; this is one of the reasons I am fond of this place. It is redolent of American virtues: self-reliance; a sense of personal responsibility; but a willingness to do the right thing to help others, even at personal cost. You might say these are human virtues, and I would agree; but they are exemplified by the America which, at great cost, sustained the free world during the Cold War Years, ensuring that the gains from the defeat of Fascism were not lost. Neo, like many of his readers, has an admiration for the ‘greatest generation’ and a keen sense of patriotism. He is proud of America for what it has done and for what it represents. Other countries are countries – America is a dream.
Well she’s right, sort of. We do feel all that but mostly we are just people trying to do our best. But our view is not Washington’s view, mostly it never has been and these days it is far out of synch with us. We are loud and proud–of what we have built (and make no mistake-we built it ourselves with as little interference from the government as we could manage) and what we have done in the world. And she is right about something else, America is a dream–one that we hold in trust, for all people.
We won the cold war, not in 1989, in October of 1962 when Kruschev blinked during the missile crisis. We knew then that if we “kept up the skeer” the Soviet Union would fall, and we did, and it did. That was our final gift to the world in the twentieth century. And it was an expensive one for us. To do so, we allowed the growth of what President Eisenhower called the ‘military industrial complex’, and it has distorted both our government and our economy and has much to do with the rise of corporatism.
There’s an old saying about the Oregon Trail (it’s about two miles from my house, and yes, you can still see the wagon tracks some places). it goes “The weak never started and sick died along the way.” It was true for the trail but more to my point, it describes America itself, as well, whether your people crossed the Bering Land Bridge as Paleo-Indians, swam the Rio Grande last week, or somewhere in between, like most of us. Americans are Americans because someone somewhere decided to be an American. It’s a self selecting society for the ones who dare.
And it’s still a do-it-yourself society, right on up to and including your personal security, and often your food as well. it’s not so much a gun society, as a ‘right tool for job’ society. Where I live, on a good night the sheriff might get there in a half hour, until then, it’s up to you. I doubt I know a man (and very few women either) who don’t know how to handle a gun, or for that matter a screwdriver. For most of us a gun is for varmint control, mostly coyotes and rattlesnakes, but sometimes wolves and even occasionally a mountain lion, and once in a great while a two legged varmint as well. I do remember the last murder in this county though, it was about twenty-five years ago. Like the man said “An armed society is a polite society.”.
But there is a deep thread in America and it’s well symbolized by the Gadsden flag
In spoken form about the best summary of it was by J.B. Books (John Wayne) in The Shootist:
I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people and I expect the same from them.
That’s our ideal, both as people, and as a country. It’s gotten more complicated since about 1940 because we looked around and figured out that we were gonna have to be the sheriff in this world, or it was going to go back to the really bad old days. So we picked up that star and we’ve done the best job we could. but we were never very happy about it, and we still aren’t. We’d rather be sitting around the grill eating a two pound T-bone and a drinking a few beers. But we do our duty first.
But to put it bluntly, America isn’t going to mount any crusades. Like everything here is supposed to be, religion in America is a free market, to be sold not forced, at the point of a gun,. America is a secular country by the founders’ design, most of us are Christians, and we’ll willingly give time and treasure out of our own pockets, and perhaps even some volunteers but, it’s none of the government’s business.
Friends? Yep we’ve got some, some very good ones. Who? Glad you asked. Canada, the UK, Israel, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and maybe India, Japan and Ireland. they’re our friends because they’ve proved themselves to be. We know they, like us, are going to act in their own interest, nobody has forgotten the USS Liberty, but their interests are sufficiently aligned with ours that we can trust them, and they can trust us.
But we’re also aware that Uncle Sugar is tapped out. We’ve had about enough of not only welfare queens in Detroit, but in Berlin and Uganda as well. We remember back in 1944 that just about as soon as the Bloody Bucket (28 ID) finished their parade through Paris on their way to the Huertgen Forest, we were getting swindled on the streets. There is very little support for NATO left here. If Europe wants to be a player it’s time for them to get their noses out of the air and apply them to the grindstone. Most of us think think Europe will be in the Caliphate by 2100. anyway. Prove us wrong, we’d like to be. They could start by having enough kids to replace their parents. Time to grow up.
And that’s pretty much how the world looks from my patch of prairie.
An excellent feel-good post NEO and ‘that was the way it was.” Of course, one today cannot fail to see that we still have terminal cancer and it is growing . . . maybe time to receive a little chemo or some radical surgery?
You mention Detroit but we could add Madison, WI, Chicago, IL, St. Louis, MO, and Cleveland, OH just for starters. The demographic is changing and so is our heritage. We have pockets in the prairie states, the deep south and spread out through rural America where the values you so well vocalize are still alive and well but this cancer is encroaching us and our kids are quite often taught about a “different” America.
The “get something for nothing” society is almost equal to the “self-reliant” society that you have described; almost half of our population receiving aid from the government at this particular point in history. And many of our new immigrants seem to be looking for free samples and to escape the drug cartels and the corruption of the fedaralies in their home country.
We best man-up ourselves and get our heads out of the skies if this is going to last for our children and grandchildren. Our birthrate is approaching that negative birthrate of Western Europe and by for the greatest growth we have is from immigrants, from Mexico and the Middle East, who are having lots of babies and receiving more in welfare than those who have been here all their lives. The American dream is turning into an American nightmare right before our eyes. Thank God for the pockets of real Americans that dot the landscape . . . without them, I doubt we would look any different that Western Europe looks today.
Color me concerned. 🙂
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Thanks, Servus. I see all the things you do, of course, and I wonder. Somedays I agree with you and yet, I think I still described most of us including the yourn, we just don’t scream as loud, at all the people you don’t agree. Maybe I’m wrong and we’re dying off, well, we had a good run, and the rest of the world will miss us, as they starve.
Because if we keep on as we are, one day it will all stop, and then what? Don’t know and don’t want o find out, its time for some good old PM.
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Indeed. I’ve lived in NYC, Boston, Detroit, and right outside DC in Arlington. It ain’t pretty. So I found a small slice of old America here in SC but alas, over the last 25 years or so, even here we have our hands full of the new “great society” legacy of LBJ; people with their hands out to the government. As Jimi used to sing, “there ain’t no life nowhere.”
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Indeed we got some here, and far too many corporatists as well. But its gonna change because after a hundred years of this nonsense, we’re broke, and one can only hide that so long. What happens then, I don’t know but it ain’t gonna be pretty, But what can’t happen, won’t, and that’s what happens in reality.
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Maybe in the dead of night that will form a new government and when we awake we will have a new USD to replace the old; shades of the ruble replacement in years gone by. We’ll maybe bet 10 cents on the dollar and if you don’t like it then you can protest; though it won’t do any good because, as you say, there isn’t any more money in the treasury. In fact, 10 cents on the dollar will be a great lie . . . since we will only be deflating the size of the bubble but not eliminating it. The whole world will suffer and experience a vacuum and the “it won’t be pretty” scenario will start to unfold. It does seem unimaginable, but with politicians who have been screwing things up forever, I can’t say we should be surprised. One good thing though. In the new Amerika you ain’t gonna get anything for nothing.
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Much what i see. In that new America-which is really the old America you will pay in something of value, gold likely, or with your time and skills. it’s gonna be hard-for a while, and then it’ll be better, much better, and far more just. Oh, and “Who is John Galt?”
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Sadly the majority of the skills needed will be found in the Mexican immigrants. Hablas Espanol?
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Enough! Good many of them, I like, anyway. Good workers, good people. Good many are illegal because we’ve screwed up immigration beyond repair, and they want to feed their families, the others are simply two legged varmints, and we’ll have to deal with accordingly, but we’ve plenty of those amongst the Anglos as well.
Incidentally my on NEO today is a bit of a companion piece, specifically on defense policy. https://nebraskaenergyobserver.wordpress.com/2015/03/16/libertarian-nationalism/
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Bueno mi amigo, voy a ir y echar un vistazo.
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Gracias
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“All along the watchtower…” Jimi knowz.
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After we bury you on the Lone Prairie, us catholics will be heading to Rome, for the Special Jubilee. Oh thank you Mary, for giving us a chance to redeem ourselves. The Holy Father has announced a Jubilee, where special indulgences will be given out. Enough indulgence points and either A) one wont have to go to purgatory or B) one can get out of purgatory after a minute or so.Pergatory points will be given for walking into one of the 4 basilicas in Rome and one chapel in the airport, to make things easier. Oh the joys of being catholic! I don’t know what took me so long to see the light. His Holiness has announced that special indulgences will be given out at the First Annual Saint Jerky Eating Contest. We are proud to be sponsors of the contest. Cherrybombcoutour Inc will provide the Saint Jerky at a small cost at the beginning of the contest. That’s rite…actual strips off of dried saints that lie around doing nothing all over catholic churches all over the world. The Holy See and Cherrybombcoutour Inc decided to make some money off these dried saints. We offer Hickory smoked, cool ranch, teriyaki, BBQ, and the ever popular with the kiddies…bubble gum flavored saint strips. The rules are; The one who eats the most saint jerky at the end of 3 minutes gets to go straight to heaven. No purgatory. That’s rite, so hurry and sign up.
If that’s not enough to warm your hearts, the Holy Father has added another special indulgence…… Introducing the First annual Jubilee Johnpaul Flog-a-Thon. Get your Johnpaul Penance Kits out and lets get crackin.It is a marathon flogging contest. The penitent and an assistant will commence flogging at the bell. First, the penitent will flog himself closer to god, and when he or she gets tired, the assistant takes over. the first one to land in gods arms, is, well, the winner. Don’t have a Johnpaul Delux Penance kit? A Kit concession will be at the Oblelisk. Purchase early so as not to be late for the contest. Happy flogging.Hope to see you all there.
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This is an excellent, well thought-out post, NEO.
You sound like a libertarian more and more everyday!
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Well, Brandon, there always been a lot of libertarian in me, for me the problem has usually been defense policy, and Ron Paul’s isolationism, which is not workable in the real world. But as I was writing this, I ran across a piece from Ricochet that answered those questions, well enough at any rate.
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Fair enough NEO, though I feel obliged to point out that RP’s foreign policy position is not as popular in libertarian circles as some people think (I’m sure you already knew this).
Heck, I had a piece arguing that the recognition of ISIS as a legitimate state is the more libertarian than just sitting around.
At any rate, I really enjoy your posts here, as well as the other contributors. (I have a weird thing for group blogs.)
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Yep, I do know that, but he always kept getting in the way. Rand is much better.
I can see that as viable, not least because it changes the rules in how we deal with them, nation states have different obligations, and our recourses are different as well. It’s crossed my mind as well.
I like yours as well, I just don’t get around as much as I used to but group blogs are fun.
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SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — Juan Carlos Cruz recalls that he and another teen boy would lie down on the priest’s bed, one resting his head at the man’s shoulder, another sitting near his feet. The priest would kiss the boys and grope them, he said, all while the Rev. Juan Barros watched.
“Barros was there, and he saw it all,” Cruz, now a 51-year-old journalist, told The Associated Press.
Barros has been tapped by Pope Francis to become bishop of a southern Chilean diocese this month, provoking an unprecedented outcry by abuse victims and Catholic faithful who contend he covered up sexual abuse committed by his mentor and superior, the Rev. Fernando Karadima, in the 1980s and ’90s. A Vatican investigation found Karadima guilty in 2011 and sentenced the now 84-year-old priest to a cloistered life of “penitence and prayer” for what is Chile’s highest-profile case of abuse by a priest.
http://news.yahoo.com/popes-zero-tolerance-pedophiles-faces-test-chile-150656032.html
Thank you Mary, You see, the pure and white catholic church has taken stern measures to stop pedophiles. Zero tolerance. We sent that evil priests to a life of prayer and penitence….that will teach him and be a deterrant to others. The blessed one true church is now safe for children. Oh thank you Mary.
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NEO, great post! “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people and I expect the same from them.” Sounds like a great motto for the internet also.
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Pretty much
does, wish I’d written it 🙂
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NEO, it’s late in the day and all the readers have gone, but I just read a good article that I believe lots of us in, as Jess said in the ‘fly over states’ feel. Long but good, enjoy. http://www.wordaroundthe.net/2015/03/a-mad-world-run-by-fools.html#links
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Yep, he’s dead on, isn’t he? BTW that Whittle video is somewhere on my blog-one his best, I think.
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“Most of us think Europe will be in the Caliphate by 2100“.
I already feel as if I have lost my home-town and have nowhere to return to.
Cardiff Wales has become one of the cities in UK most affected by Islamists. Public events have been held to raise funds for ISIS and the area that was my main shopping precinct is now almost entirely Halal restaurants and takeaway outlets. A couple of years ago, on a return business trip, we ate in one of these and the atmosphere was oppressive. A few days later we ate in another the feel of the place was pleasant and entirely different. We carefully enquired of the restaurateur and found that they were Middle Eastern Catholics.
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Of course in the states we do that every couple generations but, you’re right though, this feels different, as if the Europeans (and I’m mostly speaking of the continental Europeans) have lost their souls.
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