In describing my journey in faith in the last few years (here), I noticed as I’m sure many of you did, that I spoke nearly more about Jessica, than I did myself.
And yet, it is still a valid description of my journey. Why? Because like all of us, I’m not inclined to change, not even if it’s easy, free, good for me, and even non-fattening. Most of us aren’t. Things have to get very bad indeed before we actively seek change.
On yesterday’s Newman Blog, Newman spoke to this very human tendency to resist changing on almost any account.
We are by nature what we are; very sinful and corrupt, we know; however, we like to be what we are, and for many reasons it is very unpleasant to us to change. We cannot change ourselves; this too we know full well, or, at least, a very little experience will teach us. God alone can change us; God alone can give us the desires, affections, principles, views, and tastes which a change implies: this too we know; for I am all along speaking of men who have a sense of religion. What then is it that we who profess religion lack? I repeat it, this: a willingness to be changed, a willingness to suffer (if I may use such a word), to suffer Almighty God to change us. We do not like to let go our old selves; and in whole or part, though all is offered to us freely, we cling hold to our old selves. Though we were promised no trouble at all in the change, though there were no self-denial, no exertion in changing, the case would not be altered. We do not like to be new-made; we are afraid of it; it is throwing us out of all our natural ways, of all that is familiar to us. We feel as if we should not be ourselves any longer, if we do not keep some portion of what we have been hitherto; and much as we profess in general terms to wish to be changed, when it comes to the point when particular instances of change are presented to us, we shrink from them, and are content to remain unchanged.
A willingness to be changed — NEWMAN LECTURES.
He’s right, isn’t he? He surely is for me, and I suspect many of us.
That’s the importance of a well-catechized spiritual guide, often they can make us see why we should make the effort to change, and give us the motivation to do so.
That is the back story of my love and respect for Jessica, and in addition I think, in large measure, of why she established AATW, and why so many of us still love it so much. It is place where we can learn from others, why we should, and how change can, make our faith richer, deeper, and more pleasing to God.
Well said. So often it is me that creates the pain associated with change. It is nothing more than smoke and mirrors I design to keep myself myself. It takes the sovereign hand of God Andy own willingness to admit I don’t want to change to begin the journey to the better me that God sees.
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Yes, we are really good at inventing things to stop us changing. We do need His help to overcome ourselves.
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Newman describes well the panic that I felt when I had decided to convert to the Catholic Faith. It was not merely a changing of labels and then life would continue as it always had. There was much more that was required and it was change. I feared that I would not be the same person; that I would become as radical and foolish to the world as some who proselytize wherever they go. How about my relationships: my wife, my children, parents and relatives? No, I wasn’t going to become a Catholic as a matter of practicality: I was becoming a Catholic because I felt a radical change deep within that I could no longer resist nor ignore. So fear is the first response to the unknown and of any new and untried venture in life. What is more astounding is that once within the Church the fear is no longer there: but the sloth that prevents me from being as good a Catholic and as radical a Catholic as I should be. So we begin a process or a metamorphosis because most of us have not the will to make the change all at once. And we hope by the end of the journey that we shall be closer to a complete Transformation in Christ than we were when we began the journey.
Good post, Neo.
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For me changing churches was reasonably routine-they’re close to the same, and doctrine wasn’t my point. And besides my old E&R is non existant out here. But deciding to move from Indiana where I had spent my entire life was exactly as you say/:)
But like most, ultimately more than worth while.
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I was raised going from church to church but the conversion of heart was a different kind of animal; for it meant being more than a pew sitter on Sunday. It was that leap to what is called Abandonment to Divine Providence or Trustful Surrender. It is more like walking off the edge of a roof in the dark and not knowing what the outcome might be. 🙂
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I see your point, that is more true for me here than in my local congregation
But that leap into the unknown never happened in religion for me, the closest equivalent was a couple of career changes, and they were terrifying enough. 🙂
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Indeed. I had a few of those as well. But the fear of losing the “I” to one’s identity is even more life altering: though we never abandon ourselves as much as we intend. So we minimize and retreat to a comfort level. That seems to be the problem. To totally trust God to work the transformation requited takes a lot of trust and a lot of love and a lot of faith.
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Yes, Very likely more than I will ever muster, for all that I try, nearly every day. There is still a part of me that I can’t quite get over the line. Thank God for Grace, is all I can say.
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It is the primary difference between the ordinary and extraordinary, the better and the best, the reluctant and the saint.
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Well, I will likely remain ordinary then. I no longer can muster much interest in moving on, Sadly, perhaps at this point I’m pretty much with St. Isaac,
“See the messenger who comes to fetch me is already at the door. Why am I sitting idle? I must depart for ever. I cannot come back again”
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Aye, but you would interpret him a bit different than I – Why am I sitting idle? Time is short, so now we need press all the harder to reach the finishing line. A renewed sense of urgency and an heroic exercise of will seems to be in order.
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A year ago, I read him as you do. Now, it seems merely a time to recap, pack, and await transport. Everything I’ve done has failed, and I’m bone tired, body and mind.
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I shall pray for you my friend for now is not the time to for us to sleep. There will be plenty of time for that after the battle is won. I know the feeling and I too am am tired but the hour is late and victory or defeat is a matter of will. May Christ strengthen us and especially for the hour of greatest temptation; our own agony. Many souls are lost in that final assault by our enemy. God bless you and all of us in our quest for eternal peace.
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I need them, my friend. I agree with you, and I pray daily that he will. I’m here yet, and trying to do my duty but it is increasingly hard. God help us all.
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I understand well, my friend. But though I know it is doubtful at this point I see no other strength for me or for you outside of the Eucharist and the Sacrament of Penance. The Sacraments alone would have been enough for me to journey across the Tiber. But short of that, your own private penance and spiritual communion will be of great benefit I think. Pax Christi.
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Yes, I know, and doing that was the outcome of my illness last fall, and it has gotten me to this point. And yes, the Eucharist does strengthen me, even in the abysmal conditions it is served these day-proof that it is real, I think.
We’ll see, I’m pretty good at pressing on regardless but, it’s increasing hard to shake the apathy and yes the loneliness, now that I’ve buried most of my family and a good many of my friends, as well. And yes, I know that they, too, are still there with me, but… Peace is the least of my trouble, I’m too peaceful for my own good these days, I suspect. 🙂
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I shall pray that the fire of zeal and the living flame of love be lit in your soul; for we all are in need of the same. 🙂
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Thank you, dear Friend. 🙂
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Always welcome, Neo. 🙂
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I know, something else I share with Dr. Luther-a tendency to depression, usually I keep it in check but sometimes …
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Perhaps it is merely a touch of the melancholia. 🙂
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Perhaps, and a fair amount of it is that I’m not happy with many things in my life, and see no path forward anymore. Well, I’ll keep looking, I reckon. 🙂
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The path forward is merely hidden in our blind spot. True that it is there and it can be found. 🙂
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I know, now if I can find the ambition to find it. 😉
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You will. It is there already; you just laid it aside for a time of reflection and remembrance.
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One hopes 🙂
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Add that to Faith and Love and you have it all.
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All and nothing
Nowhere and England
Now and never
But all will be well,
and all manner of thing will be well.
😉 😉
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Amen my friend.
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and Amen.
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NEO, I was as others were aware that you had a very special relationship with Jessica. I’m so glad for you that it was so spiritually fruitful.
As for not having the feeling of accomplishment and being lonely, it doesn’t get better with age. It can get to the point of a second grieving self-pity party.
I have found a way of combating it perhaps a bit like Servus. My days are now filled with a major project that when it gets started could be fairly large. My function is two fold: first, to get all the State and local politicians support and second to work with one of the senior people by counseling him. In other words, I keep myself busy by doing something that I enjoy. The only downside to it is that I probably won’t see it fully functioning yet I console my self that I helped put something in motion. After all that is what life is about…process.
Certainly, my prayers are with you.
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David, yes we did, if anything, in public we downplayed it. No, it surprised me how hard it hit me last fall, and you’re right, it comes very close to self-pity sometimes. I, too have some things in the pipeline, although at the moment they are stalled, but yes, it’s the only anodyne. So we’ll see. As I said to SF, prayers are, I think, needed.
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‘That’s the importance of a well-catechized spiritual guide, often they can make us see why we should make the effort to change, and give us the motivation to do so.’
NEO, for you it was Jessica. For me it was Servus. In the summer of 2001 he came to work where I was employed. One day I mentioned that I had a desire to learn more about Catholicism because my step-daughter had converted & my grand-daughter was being raised Catholic. Well, Servus got off at 6pm that day and would be back at 10am the next day. But, about 7:30pm that night Servus & his wife walked into my office and had 6-7 books about the faith that he said I could keep as long as I liked. Thank the Lord I liked to read. Thus began my journey. We started going to lunch together. I would listen while he talked about different topics of the faith. One book led to another. All the ones I wanted he or his wife seemed to have. On Sunday mornings I started going to his apologetic classes at 9am. Now you must understand, for the last 30 years, all I had done on Sunday mornings was sleep! Talk about change! One day I asked Servus if he had any spiritual tapes and the next day he brought me 50! WOW! Now, he will tell you that it was the Holy Spirit that did all of this, but the Holy Spirit used him to help me change. I thank them both often in prayer.
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Yes, for me it was Jess. And also yes, I can easily see Servus doing that, for all our bickering across the Tiber, there are few people in the Faith I respect more. The spirit does do the work, but it works through men and women, that seems to be the basic thing that none of us can convince Bosco of.
A very beautiful post, I’m so glad that you shared it with us.I’m also very glad you are here with us, as well.
Thank you, again.
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You rang?
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Thanks, Stevie; always quick with an undeserved compliment. I just didn’t want to have Jesus accuse me of leaving somebody behind that was ready to come into His Church. Purely selfish on my part.
I have never had a better a friend, Steve. Thanks for all your prayers and all that you do.
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Well, you’re forgetting Fred!
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Well he demands more from me than you. He wanted to sleep in the bed with us last night. With you, all I have to do is bribe you with apple streusel to get you to say nice things about me.
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Servus, you’re a quick study. If only the rest of the world would catch on as quickly!
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Yeah, you’d be up to your eyeballs in apple streusel!
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I wonder if some sort of pilgrimage might be in order? When I went to Israel, some years ago, I came back changed in part. I’m not saying one has to visit Israel to see change, or that pilgrimages will magically fix our problems, but it might be helpful for you to get away for a while (if work and other commitments permit). A change of scene allows us to cut out the background noise and focus on God.
May you hear His voice, and perceive His heart for you.
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Nick, that is a good idea as is a spiritual retreat. My own retreat was an Ignition retreat done in complete silence and was done by the FSSP. But not being Catholic I don’t know if the Lutherans have anything so intense. It is like hard work and when it is over you feel like you have been reborn and revitalized and your faith is definitely strengthened. Since the FSSP are in his state I bet they offer this retreat for men during the summer months. But the idea of a pilgrimage is also a good way to invigorate the spirit.
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Alas, not that I know of, and I doubt if done by the ELCA it would be overly effective. This church only really works on a local level, and that depends on the Pastor
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Sad. If for no other reason their retreats are almost reason enough to become Catholic. 🙂
Seriously, I found that retreat from many years ago, what I would call life changing. I won’t kid you, it took your soul to hell and back but the trip was well worth it. Also, it is good to remain silent for a week or so. It leaves plenty of time for prayer and for meditation and you have nothing else to take you away from it. No competing responsibilities. I would almost like to make the trip out there to do it again.
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I will look into it, and see what is floating around mine as well. I need something, and fairly soon, I fear.
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I really think you should NEO. Such things give a soul a fresh start and a new outlook on life. It certainly can’t hurt. 🙂
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No, it can’t. I’m nearly as low these days as I have ever been. And so I will, and if I have to, I’ll find a syllabus and do it myself, like I have everything else 🙂
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Indeed, the Spiritual Exercises are available as a book that you can actually do on your own. The only drawback is you do not get the direction, the prayers, the Mass, the Benedictions, the Rite of Reconciliation which is a very positive aspect. However, the meditations alone are worth making. They are intense and you need to prepare for it – by reading the instructions and going somewhere where you will not be disturbed. You alternate between prayer and meditation after the scene for the meditation is presented to you so that you might visualize it and then it gives you questions to ponder and get answers for while you are engaged int he meditation. It is therapeutic and you find that the meditations help your prayer life and have you thinking of issues that you would’t normally think about on your own. There are appendixes that will help you if you are having problems with certain feelings and apprehensions, depression and aridity in prayer. Guides to distinguishing between thought that are brought on by the good spirits and the bad spirits and how to discern which is which. Something to think about anyway.
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It surely is. And thanks for caring as well, guys, that too helps a lot as well.
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And if time is not available to take off from work might I suggest either a simple reading of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius or if you like, a daily meditation for the entire year that will only require about 30 minutes of your time every day: the book I would suggest for that is rather expensive unless you can find a used copy (sometimes available through Amazon), The book is called Divine Intimacy written by a Carmelite. It is an excellent daily boost – like a good strong cup of hot black coffee. 🙂
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And thanks again.
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Don’t hesitate to email if you get down in the dumps – or call me. I’m here for you , friend. Whatever I can do or suggest is my privilege.
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I shan’t, and part of it I think is simply that I have to either make decisions, or live with the one made by others. I think I’ll be better once I get that sorted.
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That is certainly what you will need to do alright. But I am not trying, nor would I, to give you a path that may be right for me but not for you. Just understand that if you need a friend to speak with about anything at all you are not inconveniencing me in the least. As an old retiree, I have plenty of time on my hands and it is always good to have a human to speak with during the day as right now my redbone coonhound, Fred, is about it. He’s good company but a lousy conversant. 🙂
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I hear that on all counts, cause I’m in much the same shape 😉 And yes, my specific problems are for me to solve, with the people (if any) involved, we (and our situations, and sometimes beliefs) are all different. It’s always hard though, when you think you should have more information than you do, but it’s just not available.
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It is, and we will see, Nick. Thanks for the idea, it’s one contrary to my background, and for that very reason, might be a good idea. 🙂
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All my love, NEO. Sorry for infrequent replies, work has taken over for circa 2 weeks. I can’t recommend anything specific that’s tailored to you personally, but I do know that the States has a rich spiritual heritage that is apt for pilgrimage of a man seen, evangelical nature – e.g. churches where George Whitefield preached or Jonathan Edwards; Azusa Street, where the Pentecostal movement was born; places touched by Moody or Billy Graham, and Bill Johnson’s church, Bethel. Or perhaps the splendour of nature – somewhere in the Rockies?
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Thanks, Nick. Yep, all good idea, and in truth some serious contemplations amidst nature call-although not till spring as I watch it snow. 🙂
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For those of you that read this blog but don’t comment much, but are feeling “A willingness to change,” I will recommend some books and websites that really helped me. Conversion stories are always great. Patrick Madrid edited a three book series titled “Surprised by Truth,” which lead me to both books and websites by Dave Armstrong and Fr. Dwight Longenecker. Karl Keating’s “What Catholics Really Believe” and “Catholicism and Fundamentalism,” are great. I have found any books by Scott Hahn & George Weigel to be well worth the time. If you are a strong Christian and know the Bible fairly well, but struggle with why to become Catholic, please read David Currie’s “Born Fundamentalist Born Again Catholic.” My favorite current websites are: Fr. Z’s Blog http://wdtprs.com/blog/ Fr. Peter Carota http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/ Essays in Idleness by David Warren http://www.davidwarrenonline.com/ Ann Barnhardt http://www.barnhardt.biz/ and New Advent http://www.newadvent.org/
Hope this helps.
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Good idea, Steve. I would only add that there is much information also in the archives here, from all of us. Thanks 🙂
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Maybe others will post their favorite books & websites so we can expand our worlds. Thanks, NEO.
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I, personally would like it, if they do. 🙂
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I would also recommend Michael Kenny’s blog: https://journeytowardseaster.wordpress.com/
It is not only informative and very interesting on all matters to do with apologetics and history of the Catholic Church and its greatest authors, saints etc., but at the same time it is deeply spiritual and enlightening… with some beautiful pieces of poetry from time to time too. 🙂
I am a cradle Catholic myself, but I have learnt so much from Michael’s blog; he has certainly deepened and enriched my Faith, and also perhaps many others’.
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Yes, he is outstanding, seconded..
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And I would add that Kathleen, and her friends also have a lot of insight and knowledge on their site as well at:
https://catholicismpure.wordpress.com/
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That’s really kind of you NEO, thank you so much! 🙂
I’ve been away for far too long from everything going on here… something I intend to rectify from now on. Discovering all about Jess’ illness so many months later was a horrible shock! But with so much love and prayer going her way, there’s great hope that all will be well – Deo Gratias.
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Your quite welcome, Kathleen, as you know, I’m quite often at your shop, time willing, and I’ve always found it a worthwhile use of time.
I think it will work out for Jess, eventually. Thanks be to God, indeed.
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Cherrybombcoutour.blogspot.com
Heres a website that will edify your soul.
Say good brother Neo, while these cathols smile in your face and pat you on the back, they still consider you a damnable heretic.
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Bosco, you are as one drunk on strong wine, which may be why your own comments go so easily to the subject of drink. Your zeal is not guided by the love of the Spirit. God is love, and if we believe that, then how shall we look at your site, with its mixture of stuff from pornographic sites and anti-Catholic ones, and see there, the love of which Christ speaks?
Yet, when I look here at the comments above from Servus, Steve and David, and from Nicholas, I do, indeed, perceive that Spirit of love. I pray that you might acquire it, and learn from the Spirit, how it is to be a Christian and profess Christ not only in your words, but in your life and works. That word will trigger one of your usual responses, so in advance I commend St James’ epistle to you – faith without works is dead.
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Im an idiot. So what. You yourself said good brother Neo was a schismatic.
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So what? So, you have the privilege and honour that Christ has called you, and this is the witness you give to that?
Schism? Yes, the Lutherans are in schism from the Church since, self-evidently, they are not part of it.
Neo himself is where he feels called to be – which of us can be anywhere else Bosco?
Ask yourself this, is it worse to be a good witness to the Spirit than to be a schismatic? And also, is it a good witness to your relationship with Jesus to be an idiot?
My prayers are with you, not that you should become a Catholic – if it is God’s will it will happen – but that you should bear some fruit for Jesus.
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Good brother, you know I love you like a brother, but the hypocrisy swelled up to my nose and I had to remind good brother Neo of the truth. He was getting carried away by the “good vibrations”
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Hypocrisy? The only hypocrisy would be to confess Christ and be wanting in love to our fellow Christian, surely?
I have something on this coming up today, which you may well wish to comment upon.
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Yeah, well, in your new post, explain why im the only non cathol that you guys tell to join the CC. None of the others do you chew out and say that they need to join up. Believe me, im flatterd that you want me, and not the others.
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Every Catholic would want other Christians to be a Catholic, but since you are the only one here who attacks the Church, you are the one most likely to met with firm advice to give up that line 🙂
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You guys are always telling me to join the catholic church. You never ever once told Good brother Neo to join it. What, dont you want him to go to heaven?
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