Last Tuesday in his post Advent and Us, Chalcedon made this point.
Advent is a casualty of the secularisation of our society. For many people its arrival seems to have been marked by the urge to worship Mammon; at the garage this morning, paying for the petrol took longer than usual, apparently because so many people were using their debit and credit cards for βcyber Mondayβ. Already the invitations for Christmas parties are here, and the general thrust of the season seems to be towards excess and self-gratification; that may not, of course, be much more than an intensification of business as normal. So how do we retrieve Advent?
He’s correct of course. But there is also this. Advent/Christmas has been sort of a pendulum in our society. When I wrote about Thanksgiving, I was reminded that for the Separatist/Pilgrims Christmas was simply another work day, not celebrated at all. I doubt any of us really want to go back to that either.
The other point to that is that business, at its best is agnostic in regards to religion. It’s purpose is to supply the goods you want at what you consider a fair price. Yes, the owner of a business should have the option of not dealing with anyone he chooses not to. But he must understand that such a course works to his disadvantage as well as those with whom he chooses not to deal. That does not mean it is never justified.
But retail is a very strange business. the way it has developed in the US (and I suspect the UK), it has become a very large friendly dog, in a very small room, and every time it wags its tail it knocks something off the table.
Here we have a business that (if it is lucky) manages to break even in the first eleven months of the year. That means if it is to make a profit at all, it must do so in the last month, and we all know that coincides with Advent/Christmas. Christmas is, of course, a marketer’s dream: The birth of a child (and so a birthday party) combined with the major religious holiday of the dominant religion, in our countries.
And so, if you were in charge of a business like that, what would you do? I think most of us would do exactly as our retailers do, exploit it for all we are worth, after all we have employees to pay, and presumably we’d like to keep them employed for another year.
Yes, much of it is completely tasteless, occasionally degrading, and completely misses our point. And that part of it bothers me as well but, some isn’t.
And never doubt that if they could figure out a way to exploit Ramadan, they would screw that up as completely. Their job is to move product, not be be sympathetic to the religious.
Mostly, I suspect we should take this as still another reminder that while we are in this world, we are not really of this world.
And besides, a fair amount of it is kind of fun, when we put our outrage aside, isn’t it?
And personally I have always believed God has a good sense of humor, He must have, He created us, after all.
I’m glad you think God has a sense of humour…it’s worrying how many don’t. π
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I just can’t imagine He doesn’t, Nick. Can you imagine tolerating us without? π
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Indeed, that would be frightening. God’s told me some jokes from time to time – He’s very witty.
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Yeah, he tells me one every time I look in the mirror/ Who is that old man, anyway? π
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Of course what you say is true and businesses are only responding to demand. But it is the demand for businesses to be open on Sunday’s and Holy Days that is different in our present time and something that did not happen (even state laws that prevented it) back in the 50’s. But, isn’t it funny that people bought the same stuff despite this back then? People are resourceful and will still get what they want even if it is a little less convenient for them to do so. I guess this is the price we pay for wanting to have our cake and eat it too. Though, sadly, the religious folk who are forced to work during the Holy Days are being exploited to some extent. The only real good is that for some, it is the only part-time work they might get during the entire year. π
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You’re correct, of course, it really wasn’t any better back in the 50s and 60s. I can remember spending whole days lost in the Sears christmas catalog, and no, I wasn’t looking at religious stuff π
I see little point either to 24/7 retail operations but suspect it is mostly a response to internet marketing.
It’s one of the things that bothers me as well, although I have absolutely no idea of what could really be done about it.
That said, those who don’t participate (Hobby Lobby, and some others) seem to do all right. Perhaps it’s a panic reaction on their part, if so, in time it might subside, to an extent, anyway. No doubt a more robust economy would help some as well.
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Biblically speaking there is the OT example of the Sabbatical Year (Shemitah). People had to trust in God during that year that He would provide for their needs – an example for Christian and Jewish businesses to follow in spirit?
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Something I know nothing about, Nick, one of many holes in my knowledge. But perhaps not a bad idea.
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Indeed so. Retailers really should get together and see if it really makes any sense; after all, closing on certain days only creates pent-up demand. But as you say, one would have to also get the online stores to follow the same guidelines as the brick and mortar businesses or it fails. π
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Quite, and then they could run their businesses from jail, cause we know some fool would charge them with “Conspiracy in restraint of free trade”, although the real conspirators would be the ones doing the charging. We’ve managed to get ourselves in a pretty stupid cul-de-sac in many ways, haven’t we? π
But to your main point, I doubt even without the e-retailers, it would make more than a percent or so difference, the discounts are so high, I wonder if they are making 5% any more.
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We have indeed gotten ourselves into a pretty stupid cup-de-sac my friend. The other problem is that we are no longer engaged in commerce that is local or even national but international. Try to regulate that! π
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Indeed. I’d be ecstatic if we could simply keep the fraud levels down to a dull roar. But then I’m one of those people who believe in caveat emptor, sometimes stated as, “A fool and his money are soon separated”. π
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So that is why I’m broke. π Thanks for reminding me.
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Yeah, met too! π
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The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is criticizing steps taken by the Department of Labor to enforce a presidential executive order that forbids federal contractors and subcontractors from discriminating “on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity,” CNS News reported.
The bishops issued a statement asserting that while they oppose “unjust discrimination” against gays, adhering to the order would force Catholics to violate the teachings of their Church.
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Force them to violate their teaching. Ah ha, Ah ha ha AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Oh yes, I mean ,,Oh no… the CC would never violate church teaching on gays.Um, may I ask a question? If the church that Christ founded wont violate its teaching on homos. Why does it have a gay cabal inside the walls of the Vatican?
is it because the CC is a liar and a hypocrite and is Satans own cult of personality?
JESUS told us to look at their fruits. The fruits of the CC are an endless train of murder and corruption and lies.
Merry Christmas to all.
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Merry Christmas Bosco. The blog would lose so much entertainment value withoutja. I am thinking of opening up a line of statue polish. This way the RC’s can polish their image(s) with the rest of more sensible Christendom.
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