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Tomorrow the Church will celebrate the making of two new Saints – John Paul the Great and John XXIII. I use my words with care. The Church does not make anyone a saint, it recognises the infallible signs that someone is a saint; it is God who makes saints. Yes, we are all, before Bosco reminds us, ‘saints’, but the Church has, from very early on, recognised the heroic virtues and signs of special sanctity of certain individuals. There is a common misunderstanding, exemplified here as are so many common misunderstandings, by Bosco, to the effect that unless a man or woman is perfect, they cannot be a saint; this is not so; not one of us is without sin, and even the Virgin Mary needed to be redeemed of it by her son, as she was at the moment of her own conception. The rights and wrongs of the Blessed John Paul’s dealing with Louis Marciel are a matter of debate amongst those interested in truth, but one of dogmatic certainty to those with a position to defend or prosecute; they are irrelevant to the issue of his sanctity; to repeat, it is God who has made him a saint, not the Church.
The media, as is its wont, pontificate on the significance of this canonisation. It is, we are told by some, a clever attempt at triangulation – by canonising the Pope responsible for convening the Second Vatican Council and a Pope of conservative leanings, we are told that Pope Francis is appealing for unity. One assumes that the religious editor of the Huffington Post has never met those self-styled Traditionalists who object to the Blessed John Paul for a host of reasons (most of which will no doubt appear in the comments boxes here in due course); his ‘insights’ into the mind of Pope Francis may be worth the paper they are written on, but they lack depth.
Both Popes have one thing in common, and it is something which Pope Francis also has – optimism. None of the three saw himself as the custodian of a museum. Their optimism was, and is, in itself, an heroic virtue in the face of the problems the Church always faces. The easy option was the one taken by so many of their predecessors, that is to circle the wagons and adopt a defensive posture, repelling, where possible, the assaults of the world, the flesh and the devil, and where not, ceding ground and drawing the wagons into a smaller circle. This was not the way of St Peter, neither was it that of Popes such as Leo the Great. If any Pope could have been forgiven pessimism, it was Leo, who watch the barbarians occupy Rome, who watch Attila and his Huns approach it, and who saw the civilisation of centuries tremble on the edge of destruction; but he stood his ground, he stood up to Attila and he refused to let the disputes over the two natures of Christ paralyse the Church. Though it is common to say his ‘Tome’ caused the split at Chalcedon, it would be more accurate to say that it was the determination of the Alexandrians to assert the position of their See which did that; their reward was to be 1500 years (thus far) of Muslim domination.
It is natural for many of us to be attached to a conservative position and to dislike change. But the one thing which is inevitable is change, and the question for intelligent conservatives is not how to prevent change, as that is impossible, but how to ensure two things: that change, where it happens, aligns with the best of the traditions to which we are heir; and that the pace of change is not too fast. History has few laws, but one of them is that where change does not happen for a long time, when it comes it does so at a dizzying and destructive pace. If we compare the history of England in the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries with that of France, the point is clear. Charles I had many Christian virtues, but his stubborn refusal to recognised the need for change brought violent revolution to his country. When his son, James, was equally stupid, his chief subjects declined to re-run the devastation of the previous decades, and Britain began a path of peaceful change, which not even the French and Russian revolutions were able to shift. Compare that to the ancien regimes of France and Russia, where prolonged refusal to change led to revolutions which devastated those countries, and where there is still a want of stability.
Something similar happened with the Catholic Church. John XXIII recognised the need to adapt, but underestimated the forces which would use his initiative to make changes he had never wanted; but the Holy Ghost guides the Church, and the frantic cheering of the sexagenarians of ACTA every time they think Pope Francis is going to enact one of their reforms, shows the extent to which what they thought would happen has not. Much of that is dues to John Paul II, who unlike most of us, had experienced real persecution at the hands of the two most Godless regimes of the early twentieth century. To Stalin’s hubristic query of how many divisions the Pope had, John Paul II gave a decisive answer – more than the Soviet army, because the Church fought with eternal weapons. No one predicted that John Paul II’s papacy would outlast the Soviet Empire and contribute materially to its decline and fall; which shows the dangers of trying to predict history.
Tomorrow two great men will be recognised for their sanctity; I am tempted to conclude by quoting Mrs Thatcher: ‘Rejoice, just rejoice!’
I think the Thatcher quote appropriate. Although it is not my church, it teaches us all many things, not least how to have (somewhat, anyway) ordered change, thinking at least a little about the next step.
Like many conservatives, much of my belief structure is based on Burke’s ‘ordered liberty” and in some ways that seems to be what the Roman Church strives for. For indeed if we attempt to dam the river it will eventually overtop the dam with disastrous consequences, much better to build a hydropower dam and harness the power of the stream to useful tasks.
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Thank you Neo – yes, I think here it is due time to recognise the immense achievement of John Paul the Great, and of his great predecessor.
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Your welcome. I too think it is time, I don’t remember John XXIII all that well but, I do remember how standoffish the Church was from the rest of us in those days, and think he had much to do with ending that, which I think has worked to all our benefit. John Paul II was simply superb, not without sin, as the rabble are already beating into our ears, but simply his role in the liberation of eastern Europe was significant, and he managed to drive a very balky team of a church quite well as well. Or so it seems from this side of the Tiber.
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I think John Paul one of the greatest figures of the twentieth century. That, of course, is no reason to canonise him, and is not why the Church is so doing, but there is no doubt of his great personal sanctity – the virulence of Bosco’s opinion on him shows which side both are on, so to speak.
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Yes, exactly, his deeds reaching back into Poland speak for themselves, there have been few better, I think. Our media is railing against him (I’d guess yours is as well) and I have found it a useful rule of thumb that anybody the media is against is probably a pretty good man. In John Paul’s case to see how great a man he was, all we really have to do is look at the smallness of spirit of his enemies.
I think God chose very wisely with him, both as Pope and as a Saint. Not that I have any particular insight, but I always saw a great and good man doing his best.
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Yes, I think he baffled the media. He was a Catholic, so they knew what they ought to say about him, but he was also a man who had suffered under two totalitarian regimes who spoke out without fear – something they couldn’t really cope with.
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Very true, particularly since they suffer the delusion that one was of the left and one of the right, makes it rather inexplicable.
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Yes, they couldn’t work it out, poor dears 🙂
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Ah, Bless their hearts. 🙂
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CAVPA wishes to continue the the good work of the Blessed Johnpaul. Your donations will go to house and feed catholic priests “on the run” from evil victims of abuse until we find them “greener pastures”. Tomorrow, let us remember this giant figure of a man who did more to hide priests than anyone ever could.
CAVPA wishes to thank the generous outpouring of donations from devout catholics by hosting the annual CAVPA bar B que at St Peters immediatly following the canonization celebration. As usual there will be the “three legged race’, followed by “bobbing for apples” and the ever popular “tar and feather abuse victims”
Hope to see you all there.
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You’ll be back on that step at this rate Bosco.
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Not the step again. My leggs are sore from standing there already.
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I am sure Jessica will let you off, she’s very kind.
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What are your thoughts on the Canonization of Pope Pius XII, C? From what I have read it appears that for many years he has had all the requisite signs; even of the older, much more difficult rules for declaring a Saint (which these two do not have as yet). They are being Canonized under the more moderate rules of JPII after all (fewer miracles and less time for discerning, no devil’s advocate etc.).
Seems a few Jewish nay sayers have created a dam for Pope Pius XII while they have not even considered the obstacle of those victims of sexual abuse who object; after all there was not a single bishop who lost their faculties or were condemned. In fact, prelates like Rembert Weakland and Daniel Ryan (and a host of others) were profusely thanked by the Pope for their faithful service to the Church.
I am not disagreeing that the personal heroic faith of the individual is what is valued and used for the process and it has nothing to do with the claim of sainthood. What does seem apparent however is that there is a politic being employed: one being denied for ecumenical reasons and the other two being raised to sainthood due to their contribution to Vatican II. In this way, I agree with Fr. Z that this is as much about the Canonization of the Council as it is about the men; which seems obvious now that the news is coming out that Paul VI will probably be beatified after the Synod this year.
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A difficult one, as it is easy to attribute political motives freely and difficult to prove or disprove their influence.
In the case of John Paul the case is simply overwhelming. He is already popularly regarded as a saint, and often called ‘the Great’, and the Church is simply recognising his extraordinary impact. John XXIII is a different matter, and I suspect only the passage of time is preventing more controversy.
On Pius XII, I think he will be recognised as a saint, although I am sure it is wise to ensure that a thorough search of the archives happens first.
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I too think that JPII had heroic faith but I think that we are displaying a rush to judgment even with the ground swell of the world. Most of our most familiar Saints sometimes took many hundreds of years to be declared such. Is this simply a political knee jerk to the world’s demand for instant gratification? In my humble opinion this quick Canonizing of these two will lessen the meaning and dumb down the process to popularity contests. I hope not but I felt the same way when JPII started making saints every time one turned around. It is ironic, I think, that we are using his quick and easy protocol to canonize him. I think history may wince a bit at that in the distant future.
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This is a return to ancient practice. The idea that it took a whole legal process was relatively late; it was not thus that Becket or Leo the Great were canonised. I agree that it would be unwise to follow fashion, but I don’t think this is a case of that, but of recognising what is plain to most of us, that John Paul’s was a life of heroic virtue.
Our times need the example of such a man, one who was prepared to go on even when the world thought he should have retired.
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I agree C, but I am skeptical as to whether we do them a disservice by such a quick action. After all, in the future the ‘political’ aspects will evaporate and you will be left only with their heroic faith to consider. To do it now, it is prevalent; both pro and con. I see it as unwise to say the least.
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There are many times when what the world considers wisdom is not in accord with the opinion of the Church – and vice-versa 🙂
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True that. 🙂
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I agree, generally, with the idea of caution, but we have always been open to an overwhelming case, as with Padre Pio, Becket, or Leo the Great.
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Of course there are those rarest of saints whom nobody can deny. But this is not one of those cases; too much controversy on both and just wait until Paul VI comes up.
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I daresay there were quite a few in the environs of Henry II who weren’t keen on St Thomas Becket 🙂
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True, but they weren’t the Catholics. 🙂
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Back then they all said they were 🙂
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Some still do. 🙂
I’m still waiting for Solanus Casey and Fulton Sheen to get their due.
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Time will come for them both. Sheen was a wonderful communicator, and it is a shame he and his bishop fell out.
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Indeed. I have a friend whose first name is Sheen and he attended her first communion. Neat to see the pictures she has of that. She is quite devout and dedicated to his cause.
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He did a very great deal of good – we could do with someone of that quality now.
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Amen. We certainly could.
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You know what Jess is going to say about that Bosco 🙂
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Yes, i know. its back to the step for me.( ;-c
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I think putting the great baseball players in the hall of fame is great. But this stuff – it just makes me shudder and nod my head in disbelief in RCC inventions. I really thought John 23 was quite charming and a likable fellow, esp that day when he visited the prison. But don’t you Catholics have more than enough inventions of saints to pray to already? You know that pantheon of God’s Good Buddies RCC has created. No wonder the Jews think Christianity is pantheistic . Apparently the RCC is able to imitate the acts of God with a wave of that magic hand.
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Oh Virgin Mary, protect us all. We need more saints, because when they die and dry out, we here at Cherrybombcoutour Industries cut them into strips, flavor them and sell them festivities kike the one coming up tomorrow. Look for our colorful concession stand. Our banner is held high…….Saint Jerky Sold Here. Kids like it too.
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I am willing to compromise on this. The New Orleans Saints have a great football “tradition” (pun intended).
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There’s a UK soccer team nicknamed the Saints – perhaps they will all come marching in 🙂
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As usual from me, a nitpick:
Though it is common to say his ‘Tome’ caused the split at Chalcedon, it would be more accurate to say that it was the determination of the Alexandrians to assert the position of their See which did that; their reward was to be 1500 years (thus far) of Muslim domination.
I am surprised at such a direct link between Chalcedon in 451 and the Islamic conquest of Alexandria in 638 (only 1376 years ago). If one were to regard an invasion and foreign domination as punishment for a position taken at Chalcedon, Italy suffered more than Egypt in the ensuing years. You’ve mentioned Attila (who did not take Rome, but ravaged Italy), and there was an Italian famine in those years as well. One might think more proximately of 476 and the end of the Western Roman Empire, as well as the Lombard invasions of the sixth century. If one looks too quickly to connect conquest with ecclesiastical pride, Rome suffered more than Alexandria for a century and a half after Chalcedon.
And then, what sins do you have in mind for the Vandal conquest of Spain and North Africa at the end of Augustine’s life? They were Arians who persecuted the Nicene Christians under their rule. Muslim armies, shortly after taking Alexandria, continued on and also took under their rule the impeccably Chalcedonian Latin Christians of Iberia. If anything, the Muslim conquest of Alexandria preserved the existence of a non-Chalcedonian church in Egypt which the Byzantine lords were attempting (often fitfully) to eradicate. All of these Christians who suffered conquest confessed that it was “for our sins,” but it’s a dicey business identifying specific actions as “the sin” which merited such suffering, especially after an interval of several generations. We must avoid the smugness of self-congratulation regarding others’ sufferings.
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That wasn’t at all the way I was meaning it. The whole thing was a tragedy for all Christians on all sides. The Alexandrians, having seen off, so to say, John Chrysostom and Nestorius, thought to do it a third time (or a fourth if you take into account the ‘Robber Council’) and therefore did not give the ‘Tome’ a fair reading. Certainly the imperial use of force paid its part in what was to follow, but when one considers the fate of George of Cappadocia , one sees why the Empire went down that route.
I am far from saying it was a scourge from God, the scourge was inflicted on themselves by a pride which still prevents us from uniting.
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