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Next week the American Congress will decide whether to back their president in his desire to carry out a military strike on Syria; on that result much hangs. Will America learn anything from the last fifty years of involvement in active military intervention? Or are Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq not sufficient to convince it that these things are a waste of time and prestige, not to mention men and treasure? Will the Imperial Presidency, as we have seen it since FDR, continue, or will America retreat to a model more in keeping with its own history? Most of all, will its post 1945 search for dragons abroad with whom it can engage continue, or will it remember the wise advice proffered by the retiring George Washington:
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
For ‘European’ substitute ‘Middle Eastern’.
For all his irritating way of putting it, President Putin has it right here. ‘Punishing’ a sovereign state is something for the United Nations. We can, if we wish, intervene to protect a population against its own President, as we did in Bosnia, but if we do so, we are taking on a larger role than merely a punitive strike would involve. If Obama and company do not know that, they are stupid; if they do and are muddying the waters, they are verging on the criminal.
Tens of thousands of Christians have been slaughtered and/or displaced, and that required no action; hundreds of thousands of Syrians have been slaughtered and/or displaced, and that required no action; 1400 are killed by chemical weapons, and that does? This is, we are told, because the use of chemical weapons is an affront to international law and morality; and slaughtering tens of thousands is not?
Obama tells us that his credibility is not at stake; well if that were a recognition that he has none, it would be a rare moment of truth, but it is, alas, transference, as he seeks to find rhetorical tropes which will help him get what he wants. There would be great merit in his, and others, learning that their abuse of rhetoric has been noted and will work no longer; we have heard all of this before, and we have observed the results.
It does not need saying that Assad presides over a brutal regime, but it may need saying that he is not the only President in the world who does so; and it does need saying that just as we were told about the ‘moderate’ Iraqis who would take over from Saddam, the ‘moderate’ Syrians are not those who would take over should Assad fall. Anything approaching ‘democracy’ in the Arab world would give a majority to Islamists who wish, as Morsi did in Egypt, to push a particular agenda. Now, if our leaders have decided that is our agenda also, they are foolish; and if they have not considered what they would do in such an event – well would any of us be surprised? Sophomoric indignation is no excuse for thought, and forms a poor basis for international intervention.
If anyone wants an example of what the ‘rebels’ think of Christians, and how they will treat them if they win, they should look here and here. The Chaldean Patriarch has said that intervention will be a ‘disaster’. Marking the anniversary of 9/11 by working with Al-Qaeda is an odd thing to wish to do. By now, Americans know that it will not be international intervention. The usual British fig-leaf is not there, and it will be interesting to see what, in practice, the French are offering. President Obama is a latter-day Bourbon – he has forgotten nothing and learnt nothing from experience.
Today the Pope has called for a day of fasting and prayer for peace in Syria. I have joined that call, and hope readers here will pray for wisdom to descend.
The obamanation said that he didn’t draw a “red line,” the world did. He is forever trying to avoid responsibility for everything he says or does.
His appeal to Congress is another one of these. If Congress says “no,” then he blames the Republicans. If Congress says, “yes,” and the outcome is a token strike, followed either by retaliation and/or escalation then he blames the whole of the US.
As for me, I’m in favour of going, “whole hog” or staying out. It is a dichotomy. This opinion is subject to change without notice.
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I noted his refusal to acknowledge his own words; one can only assume that he has convinced himself, as he has not convinced anyone save his dwindling band of admirers.
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DMW states it correctly, as does C. Fine, I’ll happily take the blame enough is too much, as will, most Americans, I think. It is time to let the world rock along on it own for a while.
Something not talked about much is that as we (and Canada) continue to find energy resources, the middle east begins to recede back into it old irrelevance, if it wished to live in the 7th century, well, why do we care?
I suspect, it will remain a cauldron though, as it’s young people want to join the modern world.
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That is surely right, Neo. A very good point about energy.
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I suspect that energy is driving a good bit of this nonsense, really. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, America, what’s the common thread? 75% maybe + of world energy supplies, plus a pipeline.
I think Europe might want to wake up and get its head in the game, they stand to lose badly.
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Here the Greens are dedicated to taking us back to the Dark Ages, so who knows?
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So my reading indicates. Obviously I’m unlikely to have answers for you, let alone Europe. I would suggest though, that for the UK, your traditional friends: us and the Commonwealth are a far better bet than the EU. In a good many ways, Europe has all through history been as harmful as helpful to us.
I still say that the common heritage we share built the modern world, and it ain’t over yet.
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I agree, and hope that at some point we will acquire a Government which can see beyond the end of current nostrums.
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You, and us both! Although it is strange now that the has the most leftward government of all the English-speaking world. Must be our turn soon. 🙂
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23 Concerning Damascus. Hamath is confounded, and Arpad: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; there is sorrow on the sea; it cannot be quiet.
Copied from my glorious post on Syria, and add on in the comments
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Egypt has just launched an offensive against dissident groups in Sinai. Seems everyone is jumping on the “let’s make war” bandwagon. If Turkey and Israel become more aggressive….If Russia and China continue to be against “corrective measures” let them take responsibility for a regime that governs its people through rape, murder and torture.
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As opposed to the opposition that governs through torture, rape, and murder. Not a winner in the crowd. in this crowd Stalin would be a winner.
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Torture rape and murder. HHMmmm, sounds a heap like the CC.
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The USA voted for Obama and voted for him again 4 years later, they got what they wanted. We didn’t vote for Cameron, he had to do a deal to get power; we got what we didn’t want and didn’t vote for. Perhaps that explains why he feels he can trash traditional values with impunity, he feels no responsibility to the electorate. Remember this when it’s time to vote again in 2015, or you might get what you deserve.
Seven Deadly Sins
Wealth without work
Pleasure without conscience
Science without humanity
Knowledge without character
Politics without principle
Commerce without morality
Worship without sacrifice.
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Outstanding list, Mark.
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Now list the sins that arent deadly.
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Smacking an obdurate prod upside the head to knock a bit of sense into him, we’ll you did ask!
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