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This is a topic that I never see touched on by religious sermons and preachers. I debated with myself on which topic to post on; biscuits or the 70th week. I chose the 70th week. We all know that Daniel was beloved of god and god showed him what was to come. The children of Israel were an idolatrous lot. The set up idols(statues) on mounds and high places and bowed and worshipped these gods of the peoples who inhabited the area before they got there. God had a running battle with them and idolatry. But the Hebrews justified idols with lots of fancy words and big talk.
The Holy Spirit puts up with a lot of stuff from mankind, but idolatry is the one that gets him going. So, because of this, God sent the Hebrews into exile to Babylon, for what was to be 70 years. This was shown to Daniel. But, as we know, the Hebrews were let go after 69 years. That leaves one year. But we call these weeks. 70 weeks. A week being 7 days. So, what happened to the last week?
Did God make a mistake? Maybe the Hebrews were let go early> Lets take a biblical week to mean a week of years. From the time of the captivity to Babylon to the birth of Christ , we can count 69 weeks of years to the day. No, let me be more accurate. The death of Christ is 69 weeks of years to the day. Hey, whats 33 years in the scheme of things. So, what happened to the last week? Lets examine the 69 weeks. It’s not hard. No councils needed. No men in costumes required. Before jesus was sacrificed, the world was in what is known as Old Testament times. The moment of Jesus’ death, the veil was rent from top to bottom. We can now approach God ourselves, with no need for intercession by priests, or for animal sacrifice.
The Comforter was given to man. All those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Nothing wavering mind you. Not in vain rituals, but an honest call to be pulled from the gutter. This is called the age of grace. We don’t have to DO anything. Its been done for us, contrary to what religions tell you.
Now, where is this last week?Maybe God forgot about it. No such luck. Let us turn our bibles to Rev chp 4 vrs 1. John was taken to the throne room immediately. Just Bam, one second he was here, then all of a sudden he was in the spirit. This my friends is the rapture. From the first word in Matthew to this sentence was the New Testament times. The age of Grace. Easy salvation. There for the asking. No rituals or costumes needed. Now, take a serious look at Ch 4 to ch 18.
The church, the body of Christ is not mentioned. Take another good look. God is spoken of in his Old Testament names, not the loving good guy of the new testament. Now, I don’t have to point out to all you bible scholars that the time of Jacob’s trouble is a time , times and the dividing of times. This is 3 and a half years. but there is another time, times and the dividing of times, where there is relative calm. Yes, there is nothing but madness during the first 3 and half years, because the Holy Ghost has turned the world back over to Satan.
Add up 3 and a half and 3 and a half, and you mathematicians will get 7. The saved are not all in agreement as to pre or post trib. I think it’s a matter of ego. We still are human. Some saved fancy themselves as fighting it out with Satan, then getting rescued before the Devil lands the punch. Scripture does not support this. The saved are taken out of the way before the man of sin can be revealed. So, we find seven years of tribulation, where the church is gone and God is in his Old Testament clothes. What we see here is a return to Old Testament times. No more easy salvation. The earth is now back in old test times of miracles and destruction from above. Nimrod’s dream of one world religion and rule will now be realized.
People will have to worship the Image. Many are geared for that now. I have the pleasure of talking to them every day. The time is at hand. So, the 70th week is yet to come, but is at the doors. The day of salvation is today. Harden not your heart as in the day of provocation.
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JessicaHof said:
Thank you Bosco. I never heard this subject treated in this way before, so thank you for introducing us to it. 🙂
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bozoboy87 said:
Im honored to witness to you.
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JessicaHof said:
it is good to have you with us here, Bosco 🙂
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JabbaPapa said:
That remains to be proven, dear Jessica …
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bozoboy87 said:
Youre welcome sister Jess. It is prophesy being fullfilled as we speak. We kinda dont understand the book of Rev, but after the rapture it will read like the daily news. I cant stress getting saved now enough. Rev is clear, you have to be beheaded to get salvation during the 70th week, the tribulation. if anyone cares, i can speak more about this time of jacobs Trouble later.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
For those unfamiliar with this line of thinking, this might help:
Click to access DRall.pdf
I am not sure, Bosco, whether you agree with it, or it with you, but it might help those here not familiar with ‘end times’ thinking.
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bozoboy87 said:
Thanks for the link. Its too much reading to take it allmin quickly. But as soon as i saw The 3 Angels message, i smelled the7th Day adventists. Alot of what they teach is true. But alas, they have a hook, just like all religions do. I used to watch 3ABN TV shows, and i couldnt find the hook. But i knew one was coming, but they were good. i agreed with everything they said. But they were too nicely dressed. One day, when i wasnt expecting it, i saw the hook. I didnt know they were 7th Day Adventists, they never would say it. When they did, they claimed to be gods restored church. The true church of god. I wish i had a nickel for every religion that claims its gods true religion.
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Jock McSporran said:
Bosco – I’m very surprised by this post of yours. Yesterday, you wrote something that I strongly agreed with under Geoffrey Sales’ ‘Fighting Apollyon’ post
‘When one is saved, he or she is drowning and God reaches down and pulls you out of the sewer. The only thing you can think is…. wow… thanks.’
I’d have thought that you’d have used the opportunity of a first post here to expand on that, and to preach it out.
While the tag is ‘salvation’, I really don’t see how the post is related to that.
On the one hand, I don’t agree with any of this ‘end times’ thinking and would go much further. In the U.S. of A., for example, we see some extremely dangerous foreign policy dictated by religious lunatics who have decided what the end times should be like and, of crucial importance, they have decided to give God a helping hand to bring this about.
And on the other hand, I really don’t see how consideration of the ‘end times’ thinking can be instrumental in convincing people of their sin so that they seek refuge in Christ (except, perhaps, in an Ingmar Bergman movie, where Max von Sydov loses his faith because China has developed an atom bomb).
I’d ask you to justify where from Scripture you calculate that the Israelites were in captivity for 69 years rather than 70. Also, it should be pointed out that Scripture is often contradictory and less than accurate when it comes to minor details such as dates. For example, John’s gospel has the crucifixion on 14 Nisan (day before passover), while the synoptics have it on 15 Nisan (on passover). And there is no way that you can reconcile the two accounts of the gathering of the disciples in Mark and John without losing the force of both narratives.
The authorship of Scripture was governed by the Spirit of God, but nobody who has actually read it with care would try to say that it is ‘inerrant’ – in the case of the Gospels, you even find the authors trying to put each other right. I therefore find it very difficult to believe that anybody who takes Scripture seriously would ask ‘did God make a mistake?’ if the Israelites really were in captivity for only 69 years rather than 70. (Another example – the three years of famine in the time of Elijah turns into three and a half years in the letter of James, who for theological convenience seems to put it in line with the time, times and half a time that you talk about in your post).
You chose the book of Daniel for your first post. I’d have expected something different from it. For example, I think it is one of the Old Testament writings most relevant to Christianity today, how to live for God in a pagan world; up to that time, they had been living in Israel, a state that was supposed to be governed by principles given directly to Moses by God. After the captivity, they found themselves in a situation as hostile to their religion as the modern day world is to Christianity.
This ‘end times’ thinking won’t convince anybody of their sins.
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bozoboy87 said:
Brother Jock, i didnt have anything to do with the tag. I might have been a yr off of the captivity. Some jews went to rebuild befor the mass of them came home. But if you take a week to be 7 yrs then you get to the crucifixion, at 69 yrs. One week left.The bible has been accurate totally, so i believe it. If you dont believe it, well, its a free country, here in the USA
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bozoboy87 said:
Typo..i meant crucifixion, at 69 weeks.
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Jock McSporran said:
St Bosco – I’m pretty sure that the Apostle Paul, who knew the Old Testament Scripture like the back of his hand, he was able to quote the Prophets and he knew exactly what they meant, would have had a full understanding of the book of Daniel. In fact, Jesus Christ would not have been accepted as the Messiah if he had not fulfilled all these prophecies.
Nevertheless, even the Apostle Paul, in line with all the other disciples, had a thoroughly mistaken understanding of the end times and in several places in his letters, you see that he expected the second coming of Jesus during his own lifetime.
If even the apostles got this so thoroughly wrong, then (a) clearly it’s an issue that isn’t central (and isn’t even peripheral) to saving people and bringing them to Christ and (b) I’m not prepared to listen to theologians who claim to have a better understanding than the Apostle Paul.
With apologies for my scepticism.
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JabbaPapa said:
Well said — except that mistaking Bozo for a theologian is laughable at best …
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a.doelger said:
I am new round here and totally confused. Are you Bosco or Bozo? I think you are quite more clever than you’ve been given credit. But either way you are a heritic. I’m disappointed as I thought ,the Lord only knows how, that you are saved.
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bozoboy87 said:
Brother Jock, as ive said a million times befor, you dont study to know the Lord. The apostles didnt accept Jesus because they studied scripture. Yeah, Paul knew scripture, and he hated Jesus. There goes that theory. Say Brother Jock, since when did you become a bible scholar?
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Jock McSporran said:
bosco – you’re knocking down a straw man I’m afraid – nowhere in my post did I suggest that people come to Christ through studying Scripture.
I’m not a bible scholar, but I do study Scripture every day and use my God given brain to think about what I’m reading.
You seem to spend a lot of time with Scripture and not in a good way. The ‘end times’ thinking is basically using Scripture for divination. My reading today took me through 1 Samuel chapter 15,
‘Rebellion is like the sin of divination and arrogance like the evil of idolatry’.
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bozoboy87 said:
3 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
I might use you as a case in point in my high and lofty site. Im compiling alot of examples of how the unsaved view the scriptures.Let me remind you of what you said;Paul, who knew the Old Testament Scripture like the back of his hand, he was able to quote the Prophets and he knew exactly what they meant, would have had a full understanding of the book of Daniel. In fact, Jesus Christ would not have been accepted as the Messiah if he had not fulfilled all these prophecies.
Sounds like you are saying an understanding of scripture makes one knowing of things of the spirit. jesus says the unsaved are blind to the ways of the spirit. I believe Jesus. Sorry bout that chief.
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Jock McSporran said:
Bosco – It’s clear that you’re not really worth responding to, but there are other people who read this.
The ‘end times’ thinking in which you participate is basically satanic.
I think that most people (except, apparently, for you) would agree that Paul was indeed saved after his road to Damascus conversion where he met Jesus.
I also think that most people (except, apparently, for you) would accept that he did have a profound knowledge of Old Testament prophecy – he understood fully that Jesus was the fulfilment of it and that Jesus fulfilled *all* the prophecies.
Yet, at the beginning of his ministry, he still believed that the second coming would happen within his own lifetime – so he had read and understood all these prophecies, yet this ‘end times’ thinking that you are writing about never occurred to him.
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JabbaPapa said:
The ‘end times’ thinking in which you participate is basically satanic.
Correct.
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bozoboy87 said:
While you Jock and Jabba are face first to the ground befor your fave graven image, remember to call me satanic. Because i do not bow befor graven images, you two consider me satanic. Thank you Lord for blinding the eyes of the unsaved.
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JabbaPapa said:
Now THIS : Thank you Lord for blinding the eyes of the unsaved is truly satanic in nature !!!
How shameful !!!
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Jock McSporran said:
JabbaPapa – a correct analysis.
I don’t see anything remotely Christian about this Bosco character – he claims to be ‘saved’, but absolutely nothing that he writes seems aimed at bringing people to the relationship with God that he claims to have – in fact, quite the opposite. Now this is confirmed when he confesses freely that he is thanking God for lack of belief in others. Is this really what you would expect from a saved person?
I haven’t figured him out yet – is he really a Californian beach bum who claims to have found Christ? or is this simply a character that he is trying to play?
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JessicaHof said:
Now gentlemen – play nicely please 🙂
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bozoboy87 said:
Brother Jabba, give up. Youre to easy to bust. Even catholics in here can bust you. Maybe they wont because they dont want to expose their false teaching.But you just busted yourself. Jabba, my brother, may i suggest you post befor you start drinking Scotch
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JabbaPapa said:
Now gentlemen – play nicely please
Sorry, dear Jess — there is a pervasive demonic influence at work against the online presence of the Orthodox/Traditionalist Catholic Faithful of British origin.
One does NOT “play nicely” with the devil.
Evil is to be resisted with every ounce of spiritual strength that God has seen fit to grace us with.
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bozoboy87 said:
Yes sister Jess, i shouldnt let the nay sayers get under my skin. Im going to my anger management class today. Wish me luck
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bozoboy87 said:
Brother Jock, i dont want you to think im thanking god for peoples unbelief. That would be unkind of me. let me go cut and paste the words of Jesus.:
Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
I thank god that i can see his words fulfilled.
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JabbaPapa said:
He’s Eccles’ bruvver Bozo — a savd pusson (self-reportedly).
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bozoboy87 said:
Jabba, ill bet you are that Eccles, arent you?
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bozoboy87 said:
I used to be Bozoboy but had to change name because discust changed format and i couldnt get in til i got a new name, St Bosco. At your service. So, im a heretic. You must be catholic. That makes us even.
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JabbaPapa said:
Drivel.
Pure and simple.
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bozoboy87 said:
Ah, how nice to see you brother Jabba. During the tribulation and after ther rapture, please think fondly of me.
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JabbaPapa said:
I am already far too busy thinking of Our Lord, and the Holy transcendent Majesty of God to betray any of the innermost meditations of my soul in consideration of the earthly matters that you are so obsessed with.
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bozoboy87 said:
Instead of just thinking about our Lord, maybe soon you can meet him and follow him. These earthly matters are just nice to know, for the saved. Look at it as a hobby. Unraveling prophesy is a past time for the saints. Plus, passing on the info to my unsaved brothers might help them feel a need to cry out to Christ for salvation from the things to come. Saved is short for…saved from the fire.
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JabbaPapa said:
maybe soon you can meet him and follow him
Been there, done that, doing so.
Unraveling prophesy is a past time for the saints
No, it’s typically a form of idleness for the wicked.
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Jock McSporran said:
I’m also convinced that it’s a form of prognostication and therefore ‘detestable’ according to Deuteronomy.
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Tom McEwen said:
Well, it is good to see St. Bosco and JappaPapa together, it reminds me of ‘Little Boy’ which was a naval gun of 5 inch 38 who was shortened and filled with fission material finely machined of about 7 kg with a matching finely machined plug to be fired into the interlocking 7 kg. Since I am in the east I shall look to the west for a glow on the horizon. Excuse me while I go get my Popcorn. Let the show begin Gentlemen.
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a.doelger said:
Still confused.But as said’new round here’ so I’ll give it another shot.maybe….JabbaPapa,I also thought Eccles is saved.Should I keep visiting round Eccles’s place?Please advise….And is Jessxx almost saved or not? Please help. I wish not to be hanging about with bad influences. Thanks uhem,everyone.
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JabbaPapa said:
They is not savd.
Only I is savd …
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JessicaHof said:
By all means visit darling eccles, where I rather send myself up – although some might think that not possible. 🙂
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bozoboy87 said:
I knew it. Theres proof positive that you are that St Bozo, and Eccles. Busted, Jabba.
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JabbaPapa said:
I is not St Bozo.
Only St Bozo is St Bozo.
I is not Eccles.
Only Eccles is your bruvver.
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JabbaPapa said:
Similarly, dear Jess is NOT the rabit, and so on &cetera as nauseam …
Do try harder !!!
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bozoboy87 said:
Brother Jabba, i know Jess isnt Lapin. You are a master of the obvious. But im convinced you are St Bozo and Eccles. You spell just like them and attack me the same way. Busted. Hahahahahaha
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JabbaPapa said:
I is not busted.
Only atheism is busted.
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Tom McEwen said:
Thank you Bosco for discussing your view that Daniel backs up your theology. It is always welcome to make other people say, Here I stand, I can do no other. I am limited in intellect and over gifted in pride. So I run from people who are saved. Mostly because my roommate in heaven, who maybe A. Hitler because he said the sinners prayer and accepted Jesus.
I have met many people who pulled five verses out of the bible and put them on like a coat and ran out to preach, only realize that they forgot their pants.
Life is a test for both you and me, but for me the answer sheet is not the saved but the Church started by the Apostles.
This is not a joke Bosco, tell me can ships and aircraft be saved? Lightly touching the stick as you would lightly touch the face of a child, and have the aircraft sing in joy as it moves and the stick nestle back against your land like a colt’s nose in thanks. I love the smell of hot oil and hydraulic fluid and the sound of ticking metal, the spinning of the light through the cockpit and the scored aluminum floor under my boots. The boneyard are full of aircraft that are dead, but some are only sleeping. They were created in my image, as I was created in God’s image.
No, they are not saved, I am a man, I must be a worker in God’s vineyard, this work is to make me like Christ. You are saved, but do not change, nor are required to change, Christ is perfect and you are his mirror.
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JabbaPapa said:
Please don’t encourage him ; pseudo-romantic purple prose is not the answer to any existentialist nor any other question …
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bozoboy87 said:
Thank you brother Tom. I dont want to take credit for what i hold as truth. I stand on the shoulders of men of god, big thinkers, bigger than me. Plus, the holy spirit confirms in my body what i hear. Knowing the bible is like having a puzzle in a box. Some one comes along and fits a few pieces together that you couldnt figure out. God is fond of telling us that he has told us the end from the beginning.
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a.doelger said:
Well thanks xxJess. I will definitely keep visiting our mutual friend so I’ll see ya. round there. Oh yes, as you can see I’ve decided to come back round your place lt’s good.of you to be Bosco/Bozo’s keeper for awhile….I don’t know if you JabbaPapa should take a turn.That could get precarious or something…See ya s’ .
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JessicaHof said:
See you there then xx
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bozoboy87 said:
Yes Doelger, ill see you over at Eccles site. Uh, welcome aboard
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JessicaHof said:
Thank you for that Bosco. Looking at the blog statistics, your piece is the ‘most read’ one this week so far – well done 🙂 xx
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bozoboy87 said:
Well, thanks for the info sister Jess. perhaps ill do a follow up. Ill be more exact next time i bother you to do a post. Ive got more in the store. Thanks again my sister. Oh, im doing well in my anger management class.
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Jock McSporran said:
Jessica Hof – if you really want to improve the blog statistics, then you could do a post showing naked ladies dancing to can-can music (and in the interests of equality, following recent government legislation, also some naked men doing exactly the same thing). It would probably have more theological value than end times thinking.
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JessicaHof said:
I could … but won’t 🙂
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a.doelger said:
bozoboy87/bosco, I won’t be a bore by keeping this nonsense going,but want to thank you for your “maybe welcome”. I’ve been kind of low,but I seem now feeling better. And Jessxx thank you. Your site is very good. Take care.
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St bosco said:
My humblest and sincerest apology for giving you the impression that i “maybe welcomed” you. Lets start over;
Welcome here brother/sister Doelger, Bosco, at your service.
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